Small World Eh Mary ?

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I reckon you’re as old ( or young) as you feel ! Its OK though , I have got a few ‘old’ friends , and they’re not a bit senile !!!   ( HA! HA! ) Poor Catherine, will have to pick the Botanical Gardens if we all arrive at once !!! Marilyn xxx PS I can remember the ‘rag and bone’ man , coming round our streets on a horse and cart . Your reward for giving him rags was … clothes pegs!!! Hardly worth the trouble , dont you think?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Mary, Thanks for your reply. We do seem like ‘brother chip’ dont we? I didn’t think people would get irritated with chit chat on ngs ? I find it fascinating and really enjoy reading other peoples aswell. I have learned so much about other places   eg Austin, Blackburn,Hawaii… and people like.. Lance Armstrong… and things like  baseball (well, sort of)…. so you see, it’s educational ! It usually brings a smile, and lifts the spirits away from the other problems that we cant avoid. We cant talk about cancer ALL the time, surely, we have to have a laugh aswell? (By the way , I am reading this on ng , so it wasn’t transferred anywhere?) No! I realised I’d blobbed, sorry anyone reading this who’d rather not :-) Take Care , talk to you soon, Marilyn PS I think BIG SNOW was about 1993or4. I was born in 1952 .. hence Marilyn (Monroe).. so dont remember 1947. Bitch. I’m pre-war. In 1947 the children made an igloo on the street and it was still there in March. The cobbled street, not the pavement. The only motor traffic we got was the ambulance or my plumber uncle, horse-drawn carts weren’t a problem for us when we played in the street. Mary Mary Ok Ok , I’ll send Steven instead! No, I’ve enough with my own man :-)  My friends think he looks like a famous English rugby player, but I dont know which one nor would I know anyway as I dont follow or like rugby. I wouldn’t recognise him then. I don’t know any famous rugby players. My dentist plays rugby for the dental hospital where he’s a student but he’s not famous. He still has a Yorkshire accent (after 23 years here) but doesn’t look a bit like a Sheffield lad as he has ‘olive’ skin and goes nearly black when he gets a suntan I have a son like that! (he has been shouted at in the taxi and called a ‘wog’…(which means,in Australia ,of ethnic origin) CHEEK! It means the same here but because we live in a traditional immigrant area (we’re not the only whites in the stret but the only English family) people rarely mention skin colour. To be honest Mary , I’m dreading the summer this year .  I’m allergic to mozzies Me too – and repellants don’t work so I just keep covered all the time and try not to go to places where they are. and get sunburn easily if I dont wear total blockout cream, so it will be horrendous now I have got ‘lymph arm’ aswell !!!!!!   Bring on the snow! You sound like a kindred spirit! Actually, before I came out here again (I’m talking end of 2000) I only just got to a New Years Eve party , as it started snowing PM , and was about a foot thick by teatime, remember? (That was Sheffield) I do.  BUT, I remember vividly ‘THE BIG SNOW’ in Leeds (?year?) . I left work (I worked above Leeds railway station) at 5.30pm … and got home at 3.15am Well there have been a few. You’re too young for 1947 but there was 1968 (I think) and one in the seventies when I worked two miles from home and it took us five and a half hours to drive home. We’d have walked but Chapeltown Road was already littered with abandoned cars which added to the mayhem. The worst aspect of that was needing a wee. Malcolm was OK, he used the screen wash bottle. Afterwards we always carried a biscuit tin containing chocolate and biscuits to sustain the inner man and could be taken out and the tin used as a jerry. Well, I had better get ready for work , I start back today , just 4 hours 12nn-4pm so it shouldn’t be too much of a shock to the system!? Don’t like the idea of that. Work, I mean. Bad enough with all the things to do at home. Dont forget to keep LOOKING WELL at all costs (even if you feel lousy… it helps other people to cope!) Well, to be honest, I rarely feel lousy and do look well all the time. I get fed up of people saying to each other, in hushed voices, that, "Mary Fisher hasn’t been well … "when in truth I’ve never been ill. They all thought I was dead a couple of years ago, my publisher was horrified. He’d left a whole magazine page for an obituary and he had to find something else to fill it! We can swop details nearer the time … by the way , we have got a return flight cancellation fo 2nd Jan , so will be able to bring in the New Year with my family now. Great! See Yer , It would be nice. I don’t think we’re going anywhere this year, instead we might strip the sitting room floor. When you come you might have to clamber over piles of furniture … Thanks for posting, I’ve transferred this to mail because some people get irrritated with personal reminiscing on a ng. I don’t, I love it! Usenet is enhanced by thread drift! Mary

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man, ain’t that the truth?  live somewhere desirable and the "friends" come out of the woodwork to come and visit!  when I lived in NYC, I got very tired of taking (and paying for) the boat trip to the Statue of Liberty, so at the last, I would put them on the Staten Island ferry (5 cents) and say "there she is!" as we went by! Catharine, did you hear that the most famous collector of prints in the USA has donated his entire collection to…The University of Texas at Austin museums?  Seems like there’s big Longhorn news every day!  Stupid New York Times spelled it the University of Texas.  Que maroon, no?

| | ARe you serious? I thought Hawaii was a very popular tourist spot. Not | that I know anything about tourist spots … | | It used to be, but the fickle Japanese are going to different places now. | Now we need everyone ELSE to come. | | What if we all come at once? | | Then I’ll meet you all at the airport at once.  We in Hawaii are pros at | meeting people at the airport. | | — | Aloha, | Catharine | | Character is what you do when no one’s watching.

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If I could afford to, I’d love to come and get leid. catherine

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – PS   Catherine, am I invited too ( or shall I send Steve??)  I’ve always wanted one of those ‘flowery things’ draped round my neck and I’ve always thought your ‘Hawaii 5 0′ theme tune was the best one yet!!!! It’s called a lei, and EVERYONE’s invited.  We’re poor, we need the tourists. If you come, I will meet you at the airport and drape a lei around your neck — and it’ll be a nice lei, too, not one of those junk dendrobium orchid lei they give to unknowing tourists — Aloha, Catharine Character is what you do when no one’s watching.

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Ok Ok , I’ll send Steven instead!

No, I’ve enough with my own man :-)  My friends think he looks like a famous English rugby player, but I dont know which one nor would I know anyway as I dont follow or like rugby.

I wouldn’t recognise him then. I don’t know any famous rugby players. My dentist plays rugby for the dental hospital where he’s a student but he’s not famous. He still has a Yorkshire accent (after 23 years here) but doesn’t look a bit like a Sheffield lad as he has ‘olive’ skin and goes nearly black when he gets a suntan

I have a son like that! (he has been shouted at in the taxi and called a ‘wog’…(which means,in Australia ,of ethnic origin) CHEEK!

It means the same here but because we live in a traditional immigrant area (we’re not the only whites in the stret but the only English family) people rarely mention skin colour. To be honest Mary , I’m dreading the summer this year .  I’m allergic to mozzies

Me too – and repellants don’t work so I just keep covered all the time and try not to go to places where they are. and get sunburn easily if I dont wear total blockout cream, so it will be horrendous now I have got ‘lymph arm’ aswell !!!!!!   Bring on the snow!

You sound like a kindred spirit! Actually, before I came out here again (I’m talking end of 2000) I only just got to a New Years Eve party , as it started snowing PM , and was about a foot thick by teatime, remember? (That was Sheffield)

I do.  BUT, I remember vividly ‘THE BIG SNOW’ in Leeds (?year?) . I left work (I worked above Leeds railway station) at 5.30pm … and got home at 3.15am

Well there have been a few. You’re too young for 1947 but there was 1968 (I think) and one in the seventies when I worked two miles from home and it took us five and a half hours to drive home. We’d have walked but Chapeltown Road was already littered with abandoned cars which added to the mayhem. The worst aspect of that was needing a wee. Malcolm was OK, he used the screen wash bottle. Afterwards we always carried a biscuit tin containing chocolate and biscuits to sustain the inner man and could be taken out and the tin used as a jerry. Well, I had better get ready for work , I start back today , just 4 hours 12nn-4pm so it shouldn’t be too much of a shock to the system!?

Don’t like the idea of that. Work, I mean. Bad enough with all the things to do at home. Dont forget to keep LOOKING WELL at all costs (even if you feel lousy… it helps other people to cope!)

Well, to be honest, I rarely feel lousy and do look well all the time. I get fed up of people saying to each other, in hushed voices, that, "Mary Fisher hasn’t been well … "when in truth I’ve never been ill. They all thought I was dead a couple of years ago, my publisher was horrified. He’d left a whole magazine page for an obituary and he had to find something else to fill it! We can swop details nearer the time … by the way , we have got a return flight cancellation fo 2nd Jan , so will be able to bring in the New Year with my family now.

Great! See Yer ,

It would be nice. I don’t think we’re going anywhere this year, instead we might strip the sitting room floor. When you come you might have to clamber over piles of furniture … Thanks for posting, I’ve transferred this to mail because some people get irrritated with personal reminiscing on a ng. I don’t, I love it! Usenet is enhanced by thread drift! Mary

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Hi Mary, Thanks for your reply. We do seem like ‘brother chip’ dont we? I didn’t think people would get irritated with chit chat on ngs ? I find it fascinating and really enjoy reading other peoples aswell. I have learned so much about other places   eg Austin, Blackburn,Hawaii… and people like.. Lance Armstrong… and things like  baseball (well, sort of)…. so you see, it’s educational ! It usually brings a smile, and lifts the spirits away from the other problems that we cant avoid. We cant talk about cancer ALL the time, surely, we have to have a laugh aswell? (By the way , I am reading this on ng , so it wasn’t transferred anywhere?) Take Care , talk to you soon, Marilyn PS I think BIG SNOW was about 1993or4. I was born in 1952 .. hence Marilyn (Monroe).. so dont remember 1947.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok Ok , I’ll send Steven instead! No, I’ve enough with my own man :-)  My friends think he looks like a famous English rugby player, but I dont know which one nor would I know anyway as I dont follow or like rugby. I wouldn’t recognise him then. I don’t know any famous rugby players. My dentist plays rugby for the dental hospital where he’s a student but he’s not famous. He still has a Yorkshire accent (after 23 years here) but doesn’t look a bit like a Sheffield lad as he has ‘olive’ skin and goes nearly black when he gets a suntan I have a son like that! (he has been shouted at in the taxi and called a ‘wog’…(which means,in Australia ,of ethnic origin) CHEEK! It means the same here but because we live in a traditional immigrant area (we’re not the only whites in the stret but the only English family) people rarely mention skin colour. To be honest Mary , I’m dreading the summer this year .  I’m allergic to mozzies Me too – and repellants don’t work so I just keep covered all the time and try not to go to places where they are. and get sunburn easily if I dont wear total blockout cream, so it will be horrendous now I have got ‘lymph arm’ aswell !!!!!!   Bring on the snow! You sound like a kindred spirit! Actually, before I came out here again (I’m talking end of 2000) I only just got to a New Years Eve party , as it started snowing PM , and was about a foot thick by teatime, remember? (That was Sheffield) I do.  BUT, I remember vividly ‘THE BIG SNOW’ in Leeds (?year?) . I left work (I worked above Leeds railway station) at 5.30pm … and got home at 3.15am Well there have been a few. You’re too young for 1947 but there was 1968 (I think) and one in the seventies when I worked two miles from home and it took us five and a half hours to drive home. We’d have walked but Chapeltown Road was already littered with abandoned cars which added to the mayhem. The worst aspect of that was needing a wee. Malcolm was OK, he used the screen wash bottle. Afterwards we always carried a biscuit tin containing chocolate and biscuits to sustain the inner man and could be taken out and the tin used as a jerry. Well, I had better get ready for work , I start back today , just 4 hours 12nn-4pm so it shouldn’t be too much of a shock to the system!? Don’t like the idea of that. Work, I mean. Bad enough with all the things to do at home. Dont forget to keep LOOKING WELL at all costs (even if you feel lousy… it helps other people to cope!) Well, to be honest, I rarely feel lousy and do look well all the time. I get fed up of people saying to each other, in hushed voices, that, "Mary Fisher hasn’t been well … "when in truth I’ve never been ill. They all thought I was dead a couple of years ago, my publisher was horrified. He’d left a whole magazine page for an obituary and he had to find something else to fill it! We can swop details nearer the time … by the way , we have got a return flight cancellation fo 2nd Jan , so will be able to bring in the New Year with my family now. Great! See Yer , It would be nice. I don’t think we’re going anywhere this year, instead we might strip the sitting room floor. When you come you might have to clamber over piles of furniture … Thanks for posting, I’ve transferred this to mail because some people get irrritated with personal reminiscing on a ng. I don’t, I love it! Usenet is enhanced by thread drift! Mary

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PS   Catherine, am I invited too ( or shall I send Steve??)  I’ve always wanted one of those ‘flowery things’ draped round my neck and I’ve always thought your ‘Hawaii 5 0′ theme tune was the best one yet!!!! It’s called a lei, and EVERYONE’s invited.  We’re poor, we need the tourists.

ARe you serious? I thought Hawaii was a very popular tourist spot. Not that I know anything about tourist spots … If you come, I will meet you at the airport and drape a lei around your neck — and it’ll be a nice lei, too, not one of those junk dendrobium orchid lei they give to unknowing tourists

What if we all come at once? Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Aloha, Catharine Character is what you do when no one’s watching.

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Hi Mary, Thanks for your reply. We do seem like ‘brother chip’ dont we? I didn’t think people would get irritated with chit chat on ngs ? I find it fascinating and really enjoy reading other peoples aswell. I have learned so much about other places   eg Austin, Blackburn,Hawaii… and people like.. Lance Armstrong… and things like  baseball (well, sort of)…. so you see, it’s educational ! It usually brings a smile, and lifts the spirits away from the other problems that we cant avoid. We cant talk about cancer ALL the time, surely, we have to have a laugh aswell? (By the way , I am reading this on ng , so it wasn’t transferred

anywhere?) No! I realised I’d blobbed, sorry anyone reading this who’d rather not :-) Take Care , talk to you soon, Marilyn PS I think BIG SNOW was about 1993or4. I was born in 1952 .. hence Marilyn (Monroe).. so dont remember 1947.

Bitch. I’m pre-war. In 1947 the children made an igloo on the street and it was still there in March. The cobbled street, not the pavement. The only motor traffic we got was the ambulance or my plumber uncle, horse-drawn carts weren’t a problem for us when we played in the street. Mary Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok Ok , I’ll send Steven instead! No, I’ve enough with my own man :-)  My friends think he looks like a famous English rugby player, but I dont know which one nor would I know anyway as I dont follow or like rugby. I wouldn’t recognise him then. I don’t know any famous rugby players. My dentist plays rugby for the dental hospital where he’s a student but he’s not famous. He still has a Yorkshire accent (after 23 years here) but doesn’t look a bit like a Sheffield lad as he has ‘olive’ skin and goes nearly black when he gets a suntan I have a son like that! (he has been shouted at in the taxi and called a ‘wog’…(which means,in Australia ,of ethnic origin) CHEEK! It means the same here but because we live in a traditional immigrant area (we’re not the only whites in the stret but the only English family) people rarely mention skin colour. To be honest Mary , I’m dreading the summer this year .  I’m allergic to mozzies Me too – and repellants don’t work so I just keep covered all the time and try not to go to places where they are. and get sunburn easily if I dont wear total blockout cream, so it will be horrendous now I have got ‘lymph arm’ aswell !!!!!!   Bring on the snow! You sound like a kindred spirit! Actually, before I came out here again (I’m talking end of 2000) I only just got to a New Years Eve party , as it started snowing PM , and was about a foot thick by teatime, remember? (That was Sheffield) I do.  BUT, I remember vividly ‘THE BIG SNOW’ in Leeds (?year?) . I left work (I worked above Leeds railway station) at 5.30pm … and got home at 3.15am Well there have been a few. You’re too young for 1947 but there was 1968 (I think) and one in the seventies when I worked two miles from home and it took us five and a half hours to drive home. We’d have walked but Chapeltown Road was already littered with abandoned cars which added to the mayhem. The worst aspect of that was needing a wee. Malcolm was OK, he used the screen wash bottle. Afterwards we always carried a biscuit tin containing chocolate and biscuits to sustain the inner man and could be taken out and the tin used as a jerry. Well, I had better get ready for work , I start back today , just 4 hours 12nn-4pm so it shouldn’t be too much of a shock to the system!? Don’t like the idea of that. Work, I mean. Bad enough with all the things to do at home. Dont forget to keep LOOKING WELL at all costs (even if you feel lousy… it helps other people to cope!) Well, to be honest, I rarely feel lousy and do look well all the time. I get fed up of people saying to each other, in hushed voices, that, "Mary Fisher hasn’t been well … "when in truth I’ve never been ill. They all thought I was dead a couple of years ago, my publisher was horrified. He’d left a whole magazine page for an obituary and he had to find something else to fill it! We can swop details nearer the time … by the way , we have got a return flight cancellation fo 2nd Jan , so will be able to bring in the New Year with my family now. Great! See Yer , It would be nice. I don’t think we’re going anywhere this year, instead we might strip the sitting room floor. When you come you might have to clamber over piles of furniture … Thanks for posting, I’ve transferred this to mail because some people get irrritated with personal reminiscing on a ng. I don’t, I love it! Usenet is enhanced by thread drift! Mary

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I’m not posh either and I live 7 miles from Blackburn and often shop there. Mind you, my neighbours think I’m posh because I neither have a local accent nor speak Urdu, and I "do things with computers", they make it sound like a perversion. I don’t think there is any power generation (cooling towers) in Blackburn, the town centre is dominated by the Thwaites brewery, a large red brick building somewhat resembling, well,  a large red brick.  Despite its name Blackburn is a fairly light and clean place, most of the old Victorian stone buildings have been cleaned up and revealed in all their architectural glory. I think most people from out of the area know Blackburn for its football (soccer) team. If Mary can talk about cricket in Yorkshire and the Austin, Texas lot can talk about whatever game it is they play, then I ought to be able to talk about football in the North West UK, home of all the leading football teams, Manchester United, Liverpool, and of course Blackburn Rovers.  Fortunately I can’t. Tim Jackson

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – By the way , my friend isn’t posh … she’s from Blackburn ( apologies to people from Blackburn , I’ve never been , but I always think of black cooling towers , probably wrong again !) Take Care, Mazza ( Marilyn) xxx

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debateable to say the least !   "UP THE OWLS!!!" I know what you mean about not speaking Urdu though … in Dewsbury you look out of place if you dont wear a black veil with slits for eyes ! The Pakistanis are funny though . Their accents are more broad Yorkshire than my mothers’ ! A lot of the houses and old mill buildings round there have been sandblasted too, and look really good. I’ve heard it said that some computer buffs ARE perverts , but we will give you the benefit of the doubt ….   this time !!! Where did you go that’s posh speaking to lose your accent?  I HAD to lose mine in Oz , as nobody could understand a word I was saying, so I trained myself. How can I pull my friend’s leg , now you’ve told me how nice Blackburn is? Spoilsport! So where are the ‘Dark Satanic Mills’ as the song goes? Mazza x

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m not posh either and I live 7 miles from Blackburn and often shop there. Mind you, my neighbours think I’m posh because I neither have a local accent nor speak Urdu, and I "do things with computers", they make it sound like a perversion. I don’t think there is any power generation (cooling towers) in Blackburn, the town centre is dominated by the Thwaites brewery, a large red brick building somewhat resembling, well,  a large red brick.  Despite its name Blackburn is a fairly light and clean place, most of the old Victorian stone buildings have been cleaned up and revealed in all their architectural glory. I think most people from out of the area know Blackburn for its football (soccer) team. If Mary can talk about cricket in Yorkshire and the Austin, Texas lot can talk about whatever game it is they play, then I ought to be able to talk about football in the North West UK, home of all the leading football teams, Manchester United, Liverpool, and of course Blackburn Rovers.  Fortunately I can’t. Tim Jackson By the way , my friend isn’t posh … she’s from Blackburn ( apologies to people from Blackburn , I’ve never been , but I always think of black cooling towers , probably wrong again !) Take Care, Mazza ( Marilyn) xxx

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Umm, Yorkshire, I think! <duck Tim

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on the point you made about people saying "you look well" and being cancer-centric…they mean well, so I would just say, "thank you," and then ask "how is whatever going on with whomever whenever and wherever?"  Just some sort of question I could come up with, such as… Why is it that no one on this newsgroup has the least bit of familiarity with customs and traditions at The University of Texas at Austin? and so on

LOL! Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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So where are the ‘Dark Satanic Mills’ as the song goes?

They were nothing to do with factories, they were about the mills of the mind – the universities of the time. Truly. Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Despite its name Blackburn is a fairly light and clean place, most of the old Victorian stone buildings have been cleaned up and revealed in all their architectural glory.

That happened in Leeds some time ago. They’d been blackened by industrial and domestic soot. Now we’re smokeless and the buildings are almost as black again. It can only be from traffic – what’s it doing to our lungs? I think most people from out of the area know Blackburn for its football (soccer) team. If Mary can talk about cricket in Yorkshire

I can only bluff it out! and the Austin, Texas lot can talk about whatever game it is they play, then I ought to be able to talk about football in the North West UK, home of all the leading football teams, Manchester United, Liverpool, and of course Blackburn Rovers.  Fortunately I can’t.

Nor can I talk about Leeds United or Elland Road. I was taken once and saw John Charles play. I think I was fifteen. Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Umm, Yorkshire, I think! <duck

Note: a duck in cricket is a no score. Tim scored nothing with that one ho ho! Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tim So where are the ‘Dark Satanic Mills’ as the song goes? Mazza x

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Hi Mary! Yes we could perhaps meet up for a cup of coffee or something (if we can find the time around xmas, you know what its like), it would be interesting to say the least!

Indeed. Do let me know. I’ve been silent for a few days while a son nuked my hard drive (deliberately) and tidied up my pc. I’m not trying to find my way around again.  Do you think it will be a white xmas?

Nope. Haven’t had one for years. Well, not quite true, last Christmas we took our tiny caravan to a daughter’s farm on the side of a Welsh mountain and it snowed on Christmas Eve at midnight and we couldn’t get out until the week after New Year. It wasn’t slushy, too cold! We enjoyed it. Hope not , I hate the slush and muck!

So do I, in towns. Its amazing …  when you live in England , you dont see your friends and family for months and months …but if you are visiting from Australia , EVERYBODY wants to see you at least 3 times!  It will be even worse , me having cancer , I’m dreading the pity , or people avoiding the subject , and saying ," You look really well" AARGH!

I’ll try to remember not to say it, if you don’t :-) You are right though Mary, Headingley is ‘posh’ , well , expensive.  I dont know Allerton or Alwoodley , but I think they are quite green?

Not like when I was at school, houses are being built everywhere.  It breaks my heart , as its 25c and not a cloud in the sky today , not bad for the start of Spring!

Oh – we’re at the start of autumn. I bought a greenhouse heater on Friday! Take Care, Mazza ( Marilyn)

Oh no! I thought you were STEVEN! Ah well, it would still be good to meet you! Mary

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nope. Haven’t had one for years. Well, not quite true, last Christmas we took our tiny caravan to a daughter’s farm on the side of a Welsh mountain and it snowed on Christmas Eve at midnight and we couldn’t get out until the week after New Year. It wasn’t slushy, too cold! "Here we know that Christmas/ Will be green and bright/ The sun will shine all day/ And all the stars at night…" — From "Mele Kalikimaka," a smug Hawaiian Christmas song. Yes, I’ve been moaning about the heat and humidity all summer long, but at Christmas time, I’ll be telling all y’all stories about my sunburn of yesterday, or my fun time at Ho’omaluhia Botanical Gardens. Come visit!

Ooh! It’s tempting … XMary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Aloha, Catharine Character is what you do when no one’s watching.

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Ok Ok , I’ll send Steven instead!  My friends think he looks like a famous English rugby player, but I dont know which one nor would I know anyway as I dont follow or like rugby. He still has a Yorkshire accent (after 23 years here) but doesn’t look a bit like a Sheffield lad as he has ‘olive’ skin and goes nearly black when he gets a suntan (he has been shouted at in the taxi and called a ‘wog’…(which means,in Australia ,of ethnic origin) CHEEK! To be honest Mary , I’m dreading the summer this year .  I’m allergic to mozzies and get sunburn easily if I dont wear total blockout cream, so it will be horrendous now I have got ‘lymph arm’ aswell !!!!!!   Bring on the snow! Actually, before I came out here again (I’m talking end of 2000) I only just got to a New Years Eve party , as it started snowing PM , and was about a foot thick by teatime, remember? (That was Sheffield)  BUT, I remember vividly ‘THE BIG SNOW’ in Leeds (?year?) . I left work (I worked above Leeds railway station) at 5.30pm … and got home at 3.15am Well, I had better get ready for work , I start back today , just 4 hours 12nn-4pm so it shouldn’t be too much of a shock to the system!? Dont forget to keep LOOKING WELL at all costs (even if you feel lousy…  it helps other people to cope!) We can swop details nearer the time … by the way , we have got a return flight cancellation fo 2nd Jan , so will be able to bring in the New Year with my family now. See Yer , Marilyn (not Steve) xxx PS   Catherine, am I invited too ( or shall I send Steve??)  I’ve always wanted one of those ‘flowery things’ draped round my neck  and I’ve always thought your ‘Hawaii 5 0′ theme tune was the best one yet!!!!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Mary! Yes we could perhaps meet up for a cup of coffee or something (if we can find the time around xmas, you know what its like), it would be interesting to say the least! Indeed. Do let me know. I’ve been silent for a few days while a son nuked my hard drive (deliberately) and tidied up my pc. I’m not trying to find my way around again.  Do you think it will be a white xmas? Nope. Haven’t had one for years. Well, not quite true, last Christmas we took our tiny caravan to a daughter’s farm on the side of a Welsh mountain and it snowed on Christmas Eve at midnight and we couldn’t get out until the week after New Year. It wasn’t slushy, too cold! We enjoyed it. Hope not , I hate the slush and muck! So do I, in towns. Its amazing …  when you live in England , you dont see your friends and family for months and months …but if you are visiting from Australia , EVERYBODY wants to see you at least 3 times!  It will be even worse , me having cancer , I’m dreading the pity , or people avoiding the subject , and saying ," You look really well" AARGH! I’ll try to remember not to say it, if you don’t :-) You are right though Mary, Headingley is ‘posh’ , well , expensive.  I dont know Allerton or Alwoodley , but I think they are quite green? Not like when I was at school, houses are being built everywhere.  It breaks my heart , as its 25c and not a cloud in the sky today , not bad for the start of Spring! Oh – we’re at the start of autumn. I bought a greenhouse heater on Friday! Take Care, Mazza ( Marilyn) Oh no! I thought you were STEVEN! Ah well, it would still be good to meet you! Mary

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my name is not Ann.  Ann’s name is Ann. my name is Christine, but since there is a psycho girl in the Mets ng who calls herself, get ready for this Christineeeeee Jay Payton’s girl I will be Christine from Texas

| Its Ann isn’t it ? ( I hate calling you Crosem… and I’m not Steven | either!) | | I agree with Sharon,  you’ve helped me too ! | you have hit the nail on the head , that might be just what I need !!! | (I hope none of the men are reading this!) | | Kind Regards | Marilyn (Mazza/Sydney) |

| you apparently wish to get leid. | | | Ok Ok , I’ll send Steven instead! | |  My friends think he looks like a famous English rugby player, but I | dont | | know which one nor would I know anyway as I dont follow or like rugby. | | He still has a Yorkshire accent (after 23 years here) but doesn’t look a | bit | | like a Sheffield lad as he has ‘olive’ skin and goes nearly black when | he | | gets a suntan (he has been shouted at in the taxi and called a | | ‘wog’…(which means,in Australia ,of ethnic origin) CHEEK! | | | | To be honest Mary , I’m dreading the summer this year .  I’m allergic to | | mozzies and get sunburn easily if I dont wear total blockout cream, so | it | | will be horrendous now I have got ‘lymph arm’ aswell !!!!!!   Bring on | the | | snow! | | Actually, before I came out here again (I’m talking end of 2000) I only | just | | got to a New Years Eve party , as it started snowing PM , and was about | a | | foot thick by teatime, remember? (That was Sheffield) | |  BUT, I remember vividly ‘THE BIG SNOW’ in Leeds (?year?) . I left work | (I | | worked above Leeds railway station) at 5.30pm … and got home at 3.15am | | | | Well, I had better get ready for work , I start back today , just 4 | hours | | 12nn-4pm so it shouldn’t be too much of a shock to the system!? | | Dont forget to keep LOOKING WELL at all costs (even if you feel lousy… | it | | helps other people to cope!) | | | | We can swop details nearer the time … by the way , we have got a | return | | flight cancellation fo 2nd Jan , so will be able to bring in the New | Year | | with my family now. | | | | See Yer , | | Marilyn (not Steve) | | xxx | | | | PS   Catherine, am I invited too ( or shall I send Steve??) | |  I’ve always wanted one of those ‘flowery things’ draped round my neck | and | | I’ve always thought your ‘Hawaii 5 0′ theme tune was the best one | yet!!!! | | | | | | | | | | | | Hi Mary! | | Yes we could perhaps meet up for a cup of coffee or something (if we | can | | find the time around xmas, you know what its like), it would be | | interesting | | to say the least! | | | | Indeed. Do let me know. | | | | I’ve been silent for a few days while a son nuked my hard drive | | (deliberately) and tidied up my pc. I’m not trying to find my way | around | | again. | | | |  Do you think it will be a white xmas? | | | | Nope. Haven’t had one for years. Well, not quite true, last Christmas | we | | took our tiny caravan to a daughter’s farm on the side of a Welsh | mountain | | and it snowed on Christmas Eve at midnight and we couldn’t get out | until | | the | | week after New Year. It wasn’t slushy, too cold! We enjoyed it. | | | | Hope not , I hate the slush and muck! | | | | So do I, in towns. | | | | Its amazing …  when you live in England , you dont see your | friends | | and | | family for months and months …but if you are visiting from | Australia | , | | EVERYBODY wants to see you at least 3 times!  It will be even worse | , | me | | having cancer , I’m dreading the pity , or people avoiding the | subject | , | | and | | saying ," You look really well" AARGH! | | | | I’ll try to remember not to say it, if you don’t :-) | | | | You are right though Mary, Headingley is ‘posh’ , well , expensive. | |  I dont know Allerton or Alwoodley , but I think they are quite | green? | | | | Not like when I was at school, houses are being built everywhere. | | | |  It breaks my heart , as its 25c and not a cloud in the sky today , | not | | bad | | for the start of Spring! | | | | Oh – we’re at the start of autumn. I bought a greenhouse heater on | Friday! | | | | Take Care, | | Mazza ( Marilyn) | | | | Oh no! I thought you were STEVEN! | | | | Ah well, it would still be good to meet you! | | | | Mary | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |

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you apparently wish to get leid.

| Ok Ok , I’ll send Steven instead! |  My friends think he looks like a famous English rugby player, but I dont | know which one nor would I know anyway as I dont follow or like rugby. | He still has a Yorkshire accent (after 23 years here) but doesn’t look a bit | like a Sheffield lad as he has ‘olive’ skin and goes nearly black when he | gets a suntan (he has been shouted at in the taxi and called a | ‘wog’…(which means,in Australia ,of ethnic origin) CHEEK! | | To be honest Mary , I’m dreading the summer this year .  I’m allergic to | mozzies and get sunburn easily if I dont wear total blockout cream, so it | will be horrendous now I have got ‘lymph arm’ aswell !!!!!!   Bring on the | snow! | Actually, before I came out here again (I’m talking end of 2000) I only just | got to a New Years Eve party , as it started snowing PM , and was about a | foot thick by teatime, remember? (That was Sheffield) |  BUT, I remember vividly ‘THE BIG SNOW’ in Leeds (?year?) . I left work (I | worked above Leeds railway station) at 5.30pm … and got home at 3.15am | | Well, I had better get ready for work , I start back today , just 4 hours | 12nn-4pm so it shouldn’t be too much of a shock to the system!? | Dont forget to keep LOOKING WELL at all costs (even if you feel lousy… it | helps other people to cope!) | | We can swop details nearer the time … by the way , we have got a return | flight cancellation fo 2nd Jan , so will be able to bring in the New Year | with my family now. | | See Yer , | Marilyn (not Steve) | xxx | | PS   Catherine, am I invited too ( or shall I send Steve??) |  I’ve always wanted one of those ‘flowery things’ draped round my neck and | I’ve always thought your ‘Hawaii 5 0′ theme tune was the best one yet!!!! | | | | | | Hi Mary! | Yes we could perhaps meet up for a cup of coffee or something (if we can | find the time around xmas, you know what its like), it would be | interesting | to say the least! | | Indeed. Do let me know. | | I’ve been silent for a few days while a son nuked my hard drive | (deliberately) and tidied up my pc. I’m not trying to find my way around | again. | |  Do you think it will be a white xmas? | | Nope. Haven’t had one for years. Well, not quite true, last Christmas we | took our tiny caravan to a daughter’s farm on the side of a Welsh mountain | and it snowed on Christmas Eve at midnight and we couldn’t get out until | the | week after New Year. It wasn’t slushy, too cold! We enjoyed it. | | Hope not , I hate the slush and muck! | | So do I, in towns. | | Its amazing …  when you live in England , you dont see your friends | and | family for months and months …but if you are visiting from Australia , | EVERYBODY wants to see you at least 3 times!  It will be even worse , me | having cancer , I’m dreading the pity , or people avoiding the subject , | and | saying ," You look really well" AARGH! | | I’ll try to remember not to say it, if you don’t :-) | | You are right though Mary, Headingley is ‘posh’ , well , expensive. |  I dont know Allerton or Alwoodley , but I think they are quite green? | | Not like when I was at school, houses are being built everywhere. | |  It breaks my heart , as its 25c and not a cloud in the sky today , not | bad | for the start of Spring! | | Oh – we’re at the start of autumn. I bought a greenhouse heater on Friday! | | Take Care, | Mazza ( Marilyn) | | Oh no! I thought you were STEVEN! | | Ah well, it would still be good to meet you! | | Mary | | | | | | |

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mele kalikimaka is the island way to say Merry Christmas.

| | Nope. Haven’t had one for years. Well, not quite true, last Christmas we | took our tiny caravan to a daughter’s farm on the side of a Welsh | mountain and it snowed on Christmas Eve at midnight and we couldn’t get | out until the week after New Year. It wasn’t slushy, too cold! | | "Here we know that Christmas/ Will be green and bright/ The sun will shine | all day/ And all the stars at night…" | | — From "Mele Kalikimaka," a smug Hawaiian Christmas song. | | Yes, I’ve been moaning about the heat and humidity all summer long, but at | Christmas time, I’ll be telling all y’all stories about my sunburn of | yesterday, or my fun time at Ho’omaluhia Botanical Gardens. | | Come visit! | | — | Aloha, | Catharine | | Character is what you do when no one’s watching.

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Its Ann isn’t it ? ( I hate calling you Crosem… and I’m not Steven either!) I agree with Sharon,  you’ve helped me too ! you have hit the nail on the head , that might be just what I need !!! (I hope none of the men are reading this!) Kind Regards Marilyn (Mazza/Sydney)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – you apparently wish to get leid. | Ok Ok , I’ll send Steven instead! |  My friends think he looks like a famous English rugby player, but I dont | know which one nor would I know anyway as I dont follow or like rugby. | He still has a Yorkshire accent (after 23 years here) but doesn’t look a bit | like a Sheffield lad as he has ‘olive’ skin and goes nearly black when he | gets a suntan (he has been shouted at in the taxi and called a | ‘wog’…(which means,in Australia ,of ethnic origin) CHEEK! | | To be honest Mary , I’m dreading the summer this year .  I’m allergic to | mozzies and get sunburn easily if I dont wear total blockout cream, so it | will be horrendous now I have got ‘lymph arm’ aswell !!!!!!   Bring on the | snow! | Actually, before I came out here again (I’m talking end of 2000) I only just | got to a New Years Eve party , as it started snowing PM , and was about a | foot thick by teatime, remember? (That was Sheffield) |  BUT, I remember vividly ‘THE BIG SNOW’ in Leeds (?year?) . I left work (I | worked above Leeds railway station) at 5.30pm … and got home at 3.15am | | Well, I had better get ready for work , I start back today , just 4 hours | 12nn-4pm so it shouldn’t be too much of a shock to the system!? | Dont forget to keep LOOKING WELL at all costs (even if you feel lousy… it | helps other people to cope!) | | We can swop details nearer the time … by the way , we have got a return | flight cancellation fo 2nd Jan , so will be able to bring in the New Year | with my family now. | | See Yer , | Marilyn (not Steve) | xxx | | PS   Catherine, am I invited too ( or shall I send Steve??) |  I’ve always wanted one of those ‘flowery things’ draped round my neck and | I’ve always thought your ‘Hawaii 5 0′ theme tune was the best one yet!!!! | | | | | | Hi Mary! | Yes we could perhaps meet up for a cup of coffee or something (if we can | find the time around xmas, you know what its like), it would be | interesting | to say the least! | | Indeed. Do let me know. | | I’ve been silent for a few days while a son nuked my hard drive | (deliberately) and tidied up my pc. I’m not trying to find my way around | again. | |  Do you think it will be a white xmas? | | Nope. Haven’t had one for years. Well, not quite true, last Christmas we | took our tiny caravan to a daughter’s farm on the side of a Welsh mountain | and it snowed on Christmas Eve at midnight and we couldn’t get out until | the | week after New Year. It wasn’t slushy, too cold! We enjoyed it. | | Hope not , I hate the slush and muck! | | So do I, in towns. | | Its amazing …  when you live in England , you dont see your friends | and | family for months and months …but if you are visiting from Australia , | EVERYBODY wants to see you at least 3 times!  It will be even worse , me | having cancer , I’m dreading the pity , or people avoiding the subject , | and | saying ," You look really well" AARGH! | | I’ll try to remember not to say it, if you don’t :-) | | You are right though Mary, Headingley is ‘posh’ , well , expensive. |  I dont know Allerton or Alwoodley , but I think they are quite green? | | Not like when I was at school, houses are being built everywhere. | |  It breaks my heart , as its 25c and not a cloud in the sky today , not | bad | for the start of Spring! | | Oh – we’re at the start of autumn. I bought a greenhouse heater on Friday! | | Take Care, | Mazza ( Marilyn) | | Oh no! I thought you were STEVEN! | | Ah well, it would still be good to meet you! | | Mary | | | | | | |

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on the point you made about people saying "you look well" and being cancer-centric…they mean well, so I would just say, "thank you," and then ask "how is whatever going on with whomever whenever and wherever?"  Just some sort of question I could come up with, such as… Why is it that no one on this newsgroup has the least bit of familiarity with customs and traditions at The University of Texas at Austin? and so on

| Hi Mary! | Yes we could perhaps meet up for a cup of coffee or something (if we can | find the time around xmas, you know what its like), it would be interesting | to say the least! |  Do you think it will be a white xmas? Hope not , I hate the slush and muck! | Its OK on xmas cards though , and through the window if you are snug and | warm inside !!! | | Its amazing …  when you live in England , you dont see your friends and | family for months and months …but if you are visiting from Australia , | EVERYBODY wants to see you at least 3 times!  It will be even worse , me | having cancer , I’m dreading the pity , or people avoiding the subject , and | saying ," You look really well" AARGH! | I suppose I read this ng because it makes me feel less alone.  I mean , | family and friends do their best , but they cannot understand completely , | unless its actually happening to them. (Also , its preferable to doing the | ironong , which is what I should be doing!) | | By the way , my friend isn’t posh … she’s from Blackburn ( apologies to | people from Blackburn , I’ve never been , but I always think of black | cooling towers , probably wrong again !) | She went to University in Leeds and ended up staying there… living with a | Yorkshire TV cameraman. They have just split up , hence the move. | I’m definitely not posh either , good ol’ 2 up 2 down in Sheffield, that’s | my roots! | You are right though Mary, Headingley is ‘posh’ , well , expensive. |  I dont know Allerton or Alwoodley , but I think they are quite green? | | I start taking Xeloda tablets today .. for forever I think judging by the | amount (500 x 5 repeats!). Hope they work , and dont give me horrible side | effects !  Wish me luck ! | | Well , cant delay the ironing  any longer , better get on, |  It breaks my heart , as its 25c and not a cloud in the sky today , not bad | for the start of Spring! | | Take Care, | Mazza ( Marilyn) | xxx | | | | Oh! | | Sorry to intrude on your conversation , but I’m so glad that someone | else | ( but me) admitted being lost with the ‘Orange Tower’ thread. | | That’s a great comfort to me too :-) | | I was | beginning to think that I was the only one in the group who didn’t get | it | ! | You are right , its like trying to explain a game of cricket to an alien | !!! | I have deduced (probably wrongly) that there is some ‘tribal’ belonging | associated with the whole thing ? Possibly akin to the British following | their soccer teams? I could sense some ‘mock venom’ in some of the | comments!? | | Oh no! Not in this ng :-) | | Tim once told me that you were from the same neck of the woods as me | ……. | I lived at Dewsbury for 11 years pre 2001 , and then  I came to Oz. |  I was working for Parcelforce at Westgate in Leeds , and  my best | friend | lived at Weetwood Court , Headingley up until earlier this year. (She | has | moved to The Avenue, Alwoodley just recently.) | | Oooooooooh! Very posh! Well it was when I were a lass and went to Allerton | High School and most of my friends lived in Alwoodley. We went past today | and it seems to have changed. As do we all. | | I will be visiting her later this year when I go to UK , so we will be | in | touching distance then. | What a small world it is !!! | | Let me know. I’m serious. If I’m around (I get about a lot) it would be | nice | to swap stories. Why are you reading this ng, for instance? | | Mary | | | | |

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Oh! Sorry to intrude on your conversation , but I’m so glad that someone else ( but me) admitted being lost with the ‘Orange Tower’ thread.

That’s a great comfort to me too :-) I was beginning to think that I was the only one in the group who didn’t get it ! You are right , its like trying to explain a game of cricket to an alien !!! I have deduced (probably wrongly) that there is some ‘tribal’ belonging associated with the whole thing ? Possibly akin to the British following their soccer teams? I could sense some ‘mock venom’ in some of the comments!?

Oh no! Not in this ng :-) Tim once told me that you were from the same neck of the woods as me ……. I lived at Dewsbury for 11 years pre 2001 , and then  I came to Oz.  I was working for Parcelforce at Westgate in Leeds , and  my best friend lived at Weetwood Court , Headingley up until earlier this year. (She has moved to The Avenue, Alwoodley just recently.)

Oooooooooh! Very posh! Well it was when I were a lass and went to Allerton High School and most of my friends lived in Alwoodley. We went past today and it seems to have changed. As do we all. I will be visiting her later this year when I go to UK , so we will be in touching distance then. What a small world it is !!!

Let me know. I’m serious. If I’m around (I get about a lot) it would be nice to swap stories. Why are you reading this ng, for instance? Mary

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Hi Mary! Yes we could perhaps meet up for a cup of coffee or something (if we can find the time around xmas, you know what its like), it would be interesting to say the least!  Do you think it will be a white xmas? Hope not , I hate the slush and muck! Its OK on xmas cards though , and through the window if you are snug and warm inside !!! Its amazing …  when you live in England , you dont see your friends and family for months and months …but if you are visiting from Australia , EVERYBODY wants to see you at least 3 times!  It will be even worse , me having cancer , I’m dreading the pity , or people avoiding the subject , and saying ," You look really well" AARGH! I suppose I read this ng because it makes me feel less alone.  I mean , family and friends do their best , but they cannot understand completely , unless its actually happening to them. (Also , its preferable to doing the ironong , which is what I should be doing!) By the way , my friend isn’t posh … she’s from Blackburn ( apologies to people from Blackburn , I’ve never been , but I always think of black cooling towers , probably wrong again !) She went to University in Leeds and ended up staying there… living with a Yorkshire TV cameraman. They have just split up , hence the move. I’m definitely not posh either , good ol’ 2 up 2 down in Sheffield, that’s my roots! You are right though Mary, Headingley is ‘posh’ , well , expensive.  I dont know Allerton or Alwoodley , but I think they are quite green? I start taking Xeloda tablets today .. for forever I think judging by the amount (500 x 5 repeats!). Hope they work , and dont give me horrible side effects !  Wish me luck ! Well , cant delay the ironing  any longer , better get on,  It breaks my heart , as its 25c and not a cloud in the sky today , not bad for the start of Spring! Take Care, Mazza ( Marilyn) xxx

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Oh! Sorry to intrude on your conversation , but I’m so glad that someone else ( but me) admitted being lost with the ‘Orange Tower’ thread. That’s a great comfort to me too :-) I was beginning to think that I was the only one in the group who didn’t get it ! You are right , its like trying to explain a game of cricket to an alien !!! I have deduced (probably wrongly) that there is some ‘tribal’ belonging associated with the whole thing ? Possibly akin to the British following their soccer teams? I could sense some ‘mock venom’ in some of the comments!? Oh no! Not in this ng :-) Tim once told me that you were from the same neck of the woods as me ……. I lived at Dewsbury for 11 years pre 2001 , and then  I came to Oz.  I was working for Parcelforce at Westgate in Leeds , and  my best friend lived at Weetwood Court , Headingley up until earlier this year. (She has moved to The Avenue, Alwoodley just recently.) Oooooooooh! Very posh! Well it was when I were a lass and went to Allerton High School and most of my friends lived in Alwoodley. We went past today and it seems to have changed. As do we all. I will be visiting her later this year when I go to UK , so we will be in touching distance then. What a small world it is !!! Let me know. I’m serious. If I’m around (I get about a lot) it would be nice to swap stories. Why are you reading this ng, for instance? Mary

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Hi There Mary , Sorry to intrude on your conversation , but I’m so glad that someone else ( but me) admitted being lost with the ‘Orange Tower’ thread.  I was beginning to think that I was the only one in the group who didn’t get it ! You are right , its like trying to explain a game of cricket to an alien !!! I have deduced (probably wrongly) that there is some ‘tribal’ belonging associated with the whole thing ? Possibly akin to the British following their soccer teams? I could sense some ‘mock venom’ in some of the comments!? Tim once told me that you were from the same neck of the woods as me ……. I lived at Dewsbury for 11 years pre 2001 , and then  I came to Oz.  I was working for Parcelforce at Westgate in Leeds , and  my best friend lived at Weetwood Court , Headingley up until earlier this year. (She has moved to The Avenue, Alwoodley just recently.) I will be visiting her later this year when I go to UK , so we will be in touching distance then. What a small world it is !!! Take Care Mary and keep up that Yorkshire humour, Mazza in Sydney xxx

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