Hawaiian Ginger ?

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<ginger stuff snipped Orchids are closely related to gingers so I feel discussion on the orchid newsletter somewaht valid.  <snip

reply from  Harold Covington, LA, USA USDA Zone 8b

<snip I entirely disagree with your stated position – this group, as the name indicates, is for discussion of *orchids* only, not gingers, and not even lilies. Please refrain from off-topic posting. That kind of activity is clearly a violation of Usenet rules, and if continued could result in complaints to your ISP about your Net abuse, who may then deny you Usenet access entirely.

<snip If you just don’t understand the basics of Usenet rules, email a note to me and I will direct you to sites that explain accepted practices, and also define what ‘Net abuse’ is.

Is this an oversite on someones part, are we bound by individual integrity?  Was there a required license that I did not know about?  Have the Net Police given a citation?  Come on, we don’t really need boots here, specially about the lenient treatment with the tree-trimmer Now, suppose that before you had written that I had replied about an interesting multifloral species of orchid I observed at the orchid show at the New Otoni Hotel in Los Angeles, which coincidentally looked like a miniature red/magenta ginger flower cluster, (wow, how interesting I thought, taking a long and closer look bent over and scrunched down near the floor), would you have then jumped in with army boots, not giving all the species people time to reply and comment? Huh?

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[...] If you just don’t understand the basics of Usenet rules, email a note to me and I will direct you to sites that explain accepted practices, and also define what ‘Net abuse’ is.

The postings to this group are so uniformly on-topic that I’m wondering why there would be such a strong response to a posting about growing ginger. I’m growing the supermarket kind on my patio.  I like to smell my hands after I run them over the leaves. Nyah nyah nyah. Greg Parkinson

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Hi- it’s exciting to hear that you are doing so well with this plant.  I wonder if it is a plumeria-? Other name, frangipani.  Common in Hawaii. Seriously injured by the thought of frost, so is somewhat marginal in Florida.  When not frosted, it grows to small tree size. Comes in several solors – yellow, white, pink.  The canes, or stalks, from which it is propagated, often look sort-of club-shaped, in the neighborhood of 2-4 inches in diameter (as I recall) -smooth, with little petiole-scars on them. Typically, the flowers have spiral look to them, the petals overlapping a little as they go around the circle. I do not recall that they were especially long-lasting, but much fun to enjoy while they were there.  I would not classify this plant as "heavily-leaved". Good luck, whatever it is….. Elinor

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<ginger stuff snipped Orchids are closely related to gingers so I feel discussion on the orchid newsletter somewaht valid.  <snip

Many plants are more ‘closely related’ to orchids than gingers, for example lilies. Does your stance mean that you think it is okay to use a newsgroup clearly entitled r.g.orchids to discuss all of these other plants? I entirely disagree with your stated position – this group, as the name indicates, is for discussion of *orchids* only, not gingers, and not even lilies. Please refrain from off-topic posting. That kind of activity is clearly a violation of Usenet rules, and if continued could result in complaints to your ISP about your Net abuse, who may then deny you Usenet access entirely. There *is* a group where discussion of gingers would be on topic, namely rec.gardens, and there may be others as well, but posting on gingers to rec.gardens.orchids is no more appropriate than it would be if you were to post articles on gingers to rec.gardens.roses. If you just don’t understand the basics of Usenet rules, email a note to me and I will direct you to sites that explain accepted practices, and also define what ‘Net abuse’ is. Harold Covington, LA, USA USDA Zone 8b

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I have 4 differnet kinds of ginger growing in may intermediate greenhouse that occasionally will get down to 40-45 by mistake.  Mine are in large deep pots and if I leave them alone the just break the pot open and grow out the sides.  The old growth that blooms eventually; actually rather quickly, dies back and can be removed easily by hand   without cutting.  If you want to divide it just get your clippers in there and cut the tuber and rassel the tuber out. Orchids are closely related to gingers so I feel discussion on the orchid newsletter somewaht valid.  If you want the name of this type email me privatly.

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Hi ! Anyone out there from Hawaii? I’m in dire need of info. Several years ago at Ameriflora I bought a piece of stalk from an orchid grower from Hawaii. Did not really expect it to grow so I didn’t pay any attention to its name. It started in a pot, now occupies a large tub, is about 4 ft. tall. The roots resemble canna roots. the leaves and stalks look exactly like Hawaiian Red Ginger, the flower is white four petaled, emerging from a lance shaped bud, the scent is straight out of paradise. I have kept it green and growing in NJ by bringing it inside and standing it under a halide light in the fall and sending it outside in the spring.Now that it has bloomed I would like to know the proper care, should I cut back the stalks that have flowered, perhaps the entire plant should be cut back and allowed to rest. It needs dividing , when is the best time to do this? Any info you may be able to give me regarding this plant will be gratefully appreciated. Thanks! Dorothy O.

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