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They show up on the inside of the windows during the day. They’re about 3/16 inch long. They have wings which are folded tight against the body. A good description of the body would be that of a tadpole. Little flying tadpoles. But even though they’re winged, I’ve never seen them fly. If you touch them, they don’t fly. They don’t run, they just sit there and let you smash them with a paper towel. There’s usuall 10-15 of them on each pane. There are houseplants on the window sills. These plants are, orchids, a christmas cactus, and a shamrock.
Tom, you may have fungus gnats. They are usually noticed at windows because they are drawn to the light. Take a look at the photo on this article: http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopExt/4DMG/Pests/gnats.htm sed5555
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That’s hard to say. The body is sooo small. I looked at one under the magnifying glass. The wings seem to come out of the rear of the body. tom kan pa
If they have only two wings look at pics of fly/gnats. 3/16 inch is too large to be fungus gnat, try drain fly, but it may be one of several type of gnats and the source will be moisture of some sorts be it wet soil or rotting banana peel. Lar —
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What color are they? C.C. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Newsgroups: rec.gardens They show up on the inside of the windows during the day. They’re about 3/16 inch long. They have wings which are folded tight against the body. A good description of the body would be that of a tadpole. Little flying tadpoles. But even though they’re winged, I’ve never seen them fly. If you touch them, they don’t fly. They don’t run, they just sit there and let you smash them with a paper towel. There’s usuall 10-15 of them on each pane. There are houseplants on the window sills. These plants are, orchids, a christmas cactus, and a shamrock. tom kan pa
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That’s hard to say. The body is sooo small. I looked at one under the magnifying glass. The wings seem to come out of the rear of the body. tom kan pa
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Sounds like fungus gnats. BT – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – They show up on the inside of the windows during the day. They’re about 3/16 inch long. They have wings which are folded tight against the body. A good description of the body would be that of a tadpole. Little flying tadpoles. But even though they’re winged, I’ve never seen them fly. If you touch them, they don’t fly. They don’t run, they just sit there and let you smash them with a paper towel. There’s usuall 10-15 of them on each pane. There are houseplants on the window sills. These plants are, orchids, a christmas cactus, and a shamrock. tom kan pa
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They show up on the inside of the windows during the day. They’re about 3/16 inch long. They have wings which are folded tight against the body. A good description of the body would be that of a tadpole. Little flying tadpoles. But even though they’re winged, I’ve never seen them fly. If you touch them, they don’t fly. They don’t run, they just sit there and let you smash them with a paper towel. There’s usuall 10-15 of them on each pane. There are houseplants on the window sills. These plants are, orchids, a christmas cactus, and a shamrock. tom kan pa
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In addition to Cyps, the Bletilla should work. I am aware of a number of National Capitol Orchid Society members who grow both in their outdoor gardens. There is one lady who brings Bletilla dug-ups to the member sales table every few years.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Looking to add some orchids to the landscape. Anyone out there grow any of these outside? It gets down to 10F here regularly in winter and it’s very hot/humid , in the 90’s for 2 months. I just can’t resist taking the hobby outside. Anyone try the cypripediums round these parts? RJ Cypripediums should be ok. The Pleione would do ok also provided you can guarantee they won’t freeze. I am in 8a or b and cannot grow Peiones outside. Cyps do fine in my back yard. — Gideon Singer In Beautiful Vancouver BC Web site: members.shaw.ca/gsinger
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Thanks folks. The pleiones and calanthes in particular seem to be prettier than the bletillas to my eyes. Since they probably will freeze in one of our snaps, can you dig them up to spend dormancy in an unheated garage that stays barely above freezing? Do they need light during this period? RJ
Yes the pleiones can be dug up, but I would put them in shallow pots rather than directly in the ground. Then when they have gone dormant, you move them to the cool garage and keep them absolutely dry until you see new growth beginning in the spring then you water very sparingly until the roots have developed and matured. The bulbs and the roots are very prone to rot if they are watered too early. They can also be taken out of the pot and cleaned up of old corms and leaves etc and kept in a paper bag with the name of the corms written on it, then when they break dormancy in the spring pot them up again. Calanthe I have no knowledge of. I have yet to try one outside in my garden. — Gideon Singer In Beautiful Vancouver BC Web site: members.shaw.ca/gsinger
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Thanks folks. The pleiones and calanthes in particular seem to be prettier than the bletillas to my eyes. Since they probably will freeze in one of our snaps, can you dig them up to spend dormancy in an unheated garage that stays barely above freezing? Do they need light during this period? RJ
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I live in Queens, NYC…..Where most winters (not this one) reach 10 deg, and every few years we reach to 0 or slightly below….Bletilla is as hardy as you can get. It grows like mad and has to be divided every other year or so. Cyps are fine, climate wise. Acaule is always great, but only if you can provide the low nutrient, sandy, highly acid media it needs…otherwise avoid it. The parviflorum group is fairly easy, and there are enough propagated sources…perfect for z. 7. reginae would be borderline…z, 7 may actually be too warm for it. C. formosanum would be perfect, but its been hard to find lately. I grow Calanthe discolor also…..it survives every year, but hasn’t bloomed in many years. Pleiones are a problem for me. They survive winters very easily, but if the squirrels and slugs don’t kill them in the spring, the hot summers do. Take care, Eric Muehlbauer
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Looking to add some orchids to the landscape. Anyone out there grow any of these outside? It gets down to 10F here regularly in winter and it’s very hot/humid , in the 90’s for 2 months. I just can’t resist taking the hobby outside. Anyone try the cypripediums round these parts? RJ
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Looking to add some orchids to the landscape. Anyone out there grow any of these outside? It gets down to 10F here regularly in winter and it’s very hot/humid , in the 90’s for 2 months. I just can’t resist taking the hobby outside. Anyone try the cypripediums round these parts? RJ
Cypripediums should be ok. The Pleione would do ok also provided you can guarantee they won’t freeze. I am in 8a or b and cannot grow Peiones outside. Cyps do fine in my back yard. — Gideon Singer In Beautiful Vancouver BC Web site: members.shaw.ca/gsinger
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I have already started sprouting my tomato seeds here for my brave wacko friends who plant in early March (okay, I do it, too). I am using seeds from 2000, 2001 and 2002. I have seven varieties of the older seeds which have sprouted. From the new seeds, there are now four seedlings, Clear Pink Early, Gulf States Market, Green Zebra and Hawaiian Hybrid. So, either they weren’t irradiated or weren’t killed my irradiation. Your guess is as good as mine. Seeds were planted 10 days ago and the first ones sprouted at four days. It remains to be seen how the rest of the 2002 seeds do. There are 14 more waiting to sprout, most of them 2002 seeds. Noah Zone 6B – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -According to the USPS official site, only some of the mail is being irradiated and not all of it. http://www.usps.gov/news/2001/press/pr01_1204position.htm The cost would be too prohibitive. But that doesn’t mean that your package won’t go through one of their targeted sites. cheers, Jim All US mail is being irradiated, period. I asked my Postmaster that same question the other day because I was mailing seeds and a plant. I marked seeds and plant on the outside, and he said that sometimes what they will do is open the box to see what’s in there, and THEN won’t irradiate. So I took my chances, but plants should be okay if irradiated. Not too sure about seeds. They may be using enough irradiation to kill spores of a specific strain of pathogen. Don’t really know that much about irradiation or if it has specific levels. I’ve heard reports that irradiating the mail will kill seeds sent via the postal service. Is this currently being done everywhere now, or just at the facilities in the areas that experienced the anthrax threat? http://sojourns.150m.com/roadtrip98/home.html (updated 1/05/02) http://www.freetibet.org
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I’ve heard reports that irradiating the mail will kill seeds sent via the postal service. Is this currently being done everywhere now, or just at the facilities in the areas that experienced the anthrax threat?
This reference has a number of links that might be worth exploring: http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/mail.htm
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I’ve heard reports that irradiating the mail will kill seeds sent via the postal service. Is this currently being done everywhere now, or just at the facilities in the areas that experienced the anthrax threat?
The info below was posted to rec.gardens.orchids. Sorry for the formatting problems. deg Below is an email being circulated by the American Seed Trade Association. It outlines the current Postal Service efforts. TO: ASTA Representatives Service The American Seed Trade Association met with representatives of the U.S. Postal Service on January 7 to discuss seed industry concerns. ASTA has been following the procedures and policies by the U.S. government to combat bio-terrorism in the mail. Many ASTA members have been in direct contact with Association staff to discuss possible outcomes and their effect on members who routinely ship seeds through the mail for testing and commerce. The purpose of the meeting was to listen and learn from the U.S. Postal Service on the status of mail sanitization efforts and to answer our specific questions related to how seeds we ship will be safeguarded. I am pleased to report that the meeting was positive and the following points can be shared with ASTA members.
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I just have to love his spelling quality. But hey, I believe that they made spell checkers for a reason ( and it wasn’t coz they couldn’t find any other pretty picture to put on the tool-bar ) lol Kye. — The Orchid Index. An Orchid Encyclopaedia Under Progress http://orchidindex.whitehavens.com/index.html ( Soon to be located at www.orchidindex.com )
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well they sent me an email – stupid people To Whom it may concern. As far as your friend is concerned. He sent me a threatening E-mail stating that this photo was copy righted. I replied with a request for proof and never herd back from him. I get extortion threats all the time. What was I to think? As far as Stephen Dowdall E-Mailing me and others encouraging them to come into my green house and steel plants is right up there with Osama bin ladin’s thought process. As far as taking photos of the web everyone dos it I can think of about ten different sights that use my personal photos to sell there plants. and I know of many other growers and I’m sure you do to, that take other peoples photos off the web. its unfortunate that you have singled me out. After thinking about it very seriously we have decided to keep the 10% discount offer on our sight. We will not let a few people with a bad attitude ruin it for others. we are in the process of redoing our sight. So if your friend can prove his rights and wants to talk about it I would be willing But do it in person not an e-mail threat. We are a reputable business and the damage you people are trying to cause is terrible. This is the last time I will respond to your threats until I see proof. unfortunately people like yourself do damage to businesses and after it is rectified they do little to repair the damage that was done. I hope that you will think very hard before you do any more damage to the reputation of others before you here both sides of the story. Sincerely yours, Joe Van Den Heuvel www.jandkorchids.com Greg assured me that he never heard from him in response to repeated emails. Just thought I’d enlist your help in putting pressure on a vendor who seems to feel that it is okay to steal the property of others in order to promote his orchid sales. The owner of J & K orchids has incorporated one of Greg Allikas’ Phal photos into the logo on his home page http://www.jandkorchids.com/ Those lovely pink Phals belong to Greg. Greg has asked for payment for unauthorized use ($75 worth of plants) and considering that Greg makes his living selling orchid and other photos, this seems very reasonable to me. His requests have been totally ignored. As we saw before, public pressure from the orchid community seems to be an effective way of stopping this sort of abuse of copyright. The email address vendor is behaving in this manner as he/she seems to be on the right track by offering the AOS membership a 10% discount. Since this person is obviously an AOS supporter it is particularly unfortunate that they feel free to abuse an AOS photographer.
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Wow, I guess the orchid business is more lively than I’d imagined! Sue
I get extortion threats all the time. - Joe Van Den Heuvel He must lead an interesting life. deg
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I get extortion threats all the time.
- Joe Van Den Heuvel He must lead an interesting life. deg
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J and K also apparently lifted a number of copyrighted photos from Orchids, Ltd.’s website: http://www.orchideb.com Here they are: http://www.jandkorchids.com/Sesquipadale.html http://www.jandkorchids.com/boisserianum.html http://www.jandkorchids.com/sargentianum.html http://www.jandkorchids.com/moquettianum.html —Prem
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Here is the proof incase anyone want to reply to them http://www.orchidworks.com/orchids/utah041.htm
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well they sent me an email – stupid people To Whom it may concern. As far as your friend is concerned. He sent me a threatening E-mail stating that this photo was copy righted. I replied with a request for proof and never herd back from him. I get extortion threats all the time. What was I to think? As far as Stephen Dowdall E-Mailing me and others encouraging them to come into my green house and steel plants is right up there with Osama bin ladin’s thought process. As far as taking photos of the web everyone dos it I can think of about ten different sights that use my personal photos to sell there plants. and I know of many other growers and I’m sure you do to, that take other peoples photos off the web. its unfortunate that you have singled me out. After thinking about it very seriously we have decided to keep the 10% discount offer on our sight. We will not let a few people with a bad attitude ruin it for others. we are in the process of redoing our sight. So if your friend can prove his rights and wants to talk about it I would be willing But do it in person not an e-mail threat. We are a reputable business and the damage you people are trying to cause is terrible. This is the last time I will respond to your threats until I see proof. unfortunately people like yourself do damage to businesses and after it is rectified they do little to repair the damage that was done. I hope that you will think very hard before you do any more damage to the reputation of others before you here both sides of the story. Sincerely yours, Joe Van Den Heuvel www.jandkorchids.com Greg assured me that he never heard from him in response to repeated emails. Just thought I’d enlist your help in putting pressure on a vendor who seems to feel that it is okay to steal the property of others in order to promote his orchid sales. The owner of J & K orchids has incorporated one of Greg Allikas’ Phal photos into the logo on his home page http://www.jandkorchids.com/ Those lovely pink Phals belong to Greg. Greg has asked for payment for unauthorized use ($75 worth of plants) and considering that Greg makes his living selling orchid and other photos, this seems very reasonable to me. His requests have been totally ignored. As we saw before, public pressure from the orchid community seems to be an effective way of stopping this sort of abuse of copyright. The email address vendor is behaving in this manner as he/she seems to be on the right track by offering the AOS membership a 10% discount. Since this person is obviously an AOS supporter it is particularly unfortunate that they feel free to abuse an AOS photographer.
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Your curiosity has killed the Catt! *grin* (after 2 cups of java) Good "What if’s" Cheers Wendy
: Just out of curiosity. : : If an individual takes a photograph of a flower at a public exhibition does : that constitute some type of infringment on the plant owners rights? : : What if that individual then sells prints of the flower? : : Or what if the photograph appears in a publication ? : : Do you need some type of "flower model release"? : : If someone owns a particular plant does that ownership extend to a photographic : image of the flower? : : Should those individuals who choose to participate in flower shows, entries for : judging or other exhibitions where the general public is invited put up signs : that photographs of their flowers are not permitted without their written : permission?
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Well they sent me an email – stupid people To Whom it may concern. As far as your friend is concerned. He sent me a threatening E-mail stating that this photo was copy righted. I replied with a request for proof and never herd back from him. I get extortion threats all the time. What was I to think? As far as Stephen Dowdall E-Mailing me and others encouraging them to come into my green house and steel plants is right up there with Osama bin ladin’s thought process. As far as taking photos of the web everyone dos it I can think of about ten different sights that use my personal photos to sell there plants. and I know of many other growers and I’m sure you do to, that take other peoples photos off the web. its unfortunate that you have singled me out. After thinking about it very seriously we have decided to keep the 10% discount offer on our sight. We will not let a few people with a bad attitude ruin it for others. we are in the process of redoing our sight. So if your friend can prove his rights and wants to talk about it I would be willing But do it in person not an e-mail threat. We are a reputable business and the damage you people are trying to cause is terrible. This is the last time I will respond to your threats until I see proof. unfortunately people like yourself do damage to businesses and after it is rectified they do little to repair the damage that was done. I hope that you will think very hard before you do any more damage to the reputation of others before you here both sides of the story. Sincerely yours, Joe Van Den Heuvel www.jandkorchids.com Greg assured me that he never heard from him in response to repeated emails.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just thought I’d enlist your help in putting pressure on a vendor who seems to feel that it is okay to steal the property of others in order to promote his orchid sales. The owner of J & K orchids has incorporated one of Greg Allikas’ Phal photos into the logo on his home page http://www.jandkorchids.com/ Those lovely pink Phals belong to Greg. Greg has asked for payment for unauthorized use ($75 worth of plants) and considering that Greg makes his living selling orchid and other photos, this seems very reasonable to me. His requests have been totally ignored. As we saw before, public pressure from the orchid community seems to be an effective way of stopping this sort of abuse of copyright. The email address is behaving in this manner as he/she seems to be on the right track by offering the AOS membership a 10% discount. Since this person is obviously an AOS supporter it is particularly unfortunate that they feel free to abuse an AOS photographer.
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Why can’t you sell picture of the artwork? It’s your photo..
It isn’t your artwork. Artists have a nearly absolute right to control the use of images of their work. The same applies to images of people such as actors whose livelihood depends on their physical appearance. Except for a few privileged instances such as a news story about an exhibit or the rare instance when an artwork is the subject of a lawsuit and is exhibited in court, the right to the image of an artwork belongs to the artist, not to someone who just snaps a picture of it. If a photographer sells pictures of artwork without the artist’s permission, he or she can be sued for illicit appropriation of that image. J. Del Col
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Why can’t you sell picture of the artwork? It’s your photo..
This subject was discussed in a pottery email list I participate in, but I can’t find the posting that discusses this. I’ll look more later, however. . . This is one of those laws that seems reasonable at one level and silly at the extreme. For example, it doesn’t seem like someone should be able to take a picture of a painting (using a nice 4 x 5 view camera, of course) and then be allowed to sell posters. Clearly the artist would be ripped off. On the other hand, it has been suggested that some building designs are copyrighted but nobody would suggest that a photographer can’t sell a picture of a city skyline which includes such a building. I don’t know where the law draws the line. deg
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Right you are, but I still don’t like it! — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t claim to understand the details of copyright law, but there are cases where a photographer does not own the copyright for an imagine he takes. I just remembered a most famous plant image that is copyrighted and cannot be used by any photographer without express written permission. It is the image of the tree that sticks out of a hill side, ocean in the background. This image is found at the Pebble Beach Golf Course in California.
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Why can’t you sell picture of the artwork? It’s your photo..
For the same reason that you can’t sell a photocopy of a book. The original work, either a painting or a book, is copyrighted itself and therefore can’t be reproduced without permission.
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And let them know how you feel about them using Greg Allikas’ image without permission and without any willingness to pony up a fair use fee. http://www.jandkorchids.com —Prem
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I don’t claim to understand the details of copyright law, but there are cases where a photographer does not own the copyright for an imagine he takes.
I just remembered a most famous plant image that is copyrighted and cannot be used by any photographer without express written permission. It is the image of the tree that sticks out of a hill side, ocean in the background. This image is found at the Pebble Beach Golf Course in California.
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Why can’t you sell picture of the artwork? It’s your photo.. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!
That’s true, BUT the artwork is itself copyrighted! — Gideon Singer In Beautiful wet Vancouver BC
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Why can’t you sell picture of the artwork? It’s your photo.. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t claim to understand the details of copyright law, but there are cases where a photographer does not own the copyright for an imagine he takes. For example, if I take a picture of an artwork I can’t necessarily sell copies of the picture. It may well be possible to copyright the design of a garden and thereby limit the use of photographs of it. deg Hi Trainman9, As far as I understand it, the image belongs to the photographer or whoever has the copyright. They are the ones that makes the money. Over here in the UK you may find many garden design books are often full of show gardens. Infact the Chelsea flower show appears time and time again….just look for the backgrounds! Yet the authors often never made those gardens. At that show, nowadays some exhibitors discourage certain photographers who have a reputation for doing such things. A friend of mine had their gold medal winning garden photographed, it then appeard on a Scottish credit card and not a penny to the designer, sponsors or builders…. such is life. They knew nothing about it until a few months later. Regards Alan L Winthrop. www.tissuequickplantlabs.com Just out of curiosity. If an individual takes a photograph of a flower at a public exhibition does that constitute some type of infringment on the plant owners rights? What if that individual then sells prints of the flower? Or what if the photograph appears in a publication ? flowers are not permitted without their written permission?
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I don’t claim to understand the details of copyright law, but there are cases where a photographer does not own the copyright for an imagine he takes. For example, if I take a picture of an artwork I can’t necessarily sell copies of the picture. It may well be possible to copyright the design of a garden and thereby limit the use of photographs of it. deg – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Trainman9, As far as I understand it, the image belongs to the photographer or whoever has the copyright. They are the ones that makes the money. Over here in the UK you may find many garden design books are often full of show gardens. Infact the Chelsea flower show appears time and time again….just look for the backgrounds! Yet the authors often never made those gardens. At that show, nowadays some exhibitors discourage certain photographers who have a reputation for doing such things. A friend of mine had their gold medal winning garden photographed, it then appeard on a Scottish credit card and not a penny to the designer, sponsors or builders…. such is life. They knew nothing about it until a few months later. Regards Alan L Winthrop. www.tissuequickplantlabs.com Just out of curiosity. If an individual takes a photograph of a flower at a public exhibition does that constitute some type of infringment on the plant owners rights? What if that individual then sells prints of the flower? Or what if the photograph appears in a publication ? flowers are not permitted without their written permission?
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Hi Trainman9, As far as I understand it, the image belongs to the photographer or whoever has the copyright. They are the ones that makes the money. Over here in the UK you may find many garden design books are often full of show gardens. Infact the Chelsea flower show appears time and time again….just look for the backgrounds! Yet the authors often never made those gardens. At that show, nowadays some exhibitors discourage certain photographers who have a reputation for doing such things. A friend of mine had their gold medal winning garden photographed, it then appeard on a Scottish credit card and not a penny to the designer, sponsors or builders…. such is life. They knew nothing about it until a few months later. Regards Alan L Winthrop. www.tissuequickplantlabs.com
Just out of curiosity. If an individual takes a photograph of a flower at a public exhibition does that constitute some type of infringment on the plant owners rights? What if that individual then sells prints of the flower? Or what if the photograph appears in a publication ?
flowers are not permitted without their written – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – permission?
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If they took one – they have more that are not theirs. The photos are very inconsistent as to background, lighting and general quality. SuE – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just thought I’d enlist your help in putting pressure on a vendor who seems to feel that it is okay to steal the property of others in order to promote his orchid sales. The owner of J & K orchids has incorporated one of Greg Allikas’ Phal photos into the logo on his home page http://www.jandkorchids.com/ Those lovely pink Phals belong to Greg. Greg has asked for payment for unauthorized use ($75 worth of plants) and considering that Greg makes his living selling orchid and other photos, this seems very reasonable to me. His requests have been totally ignored. As we saw before, public pressure from the orchid community seems to be an effective way of stopping this sort of abuse of copyright. The email address behaving in this manner as he/she seems to be on the right track by offering the AOS membership a 10% discount. Since this person is obviously an AOS supporter it is particularly unfortunate that they feel free to abuse an AOS photographer.
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Glad that I am not the only one who noticed that one… lol Kye. — The Orchid Index. An Orchid Encyclopaedia Under Progress http://orchidindex.whitehavens.com/index.html ( Soon to be located at www.orchidindex.com )
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Also gotta wonder about the Orchid Award of Excellence. Maybe I should steal that graphic for my site. Naahh. I can make up my own award. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!
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Just out of curiosity. If an individual takes a photograph of a flower at a public exhibition does that constitute some type of infringment on the plant owners rights? What if that individual then sells prints of the flower? Or what if the photograph appears in a publication ? Do you need some type of "flower model release"? If someone owns a particular plant does that ownership extend to a photographic image of the flower? Should those individuals who choose to participate in flower shows, entries for judging or other exhibitions where the general public is invited put up signs that photographs of their flowers are not permitted without their written permission?
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: Just thought I’d enlist your help in putting pressure on a vendor who seems : to feel that it is okay to steal the property of others…. I especially appreciate the irony of the ‘fraud protection’ banner in the lower right of their front page…..
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I was too busy noticing their support of AOS while they stole from an AOS photographer!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : Just thought I’d enlist your help in putting pressure on a vendor who seems : to feel that it is okay to steal the property of others…. I especially appreciate the irony of the ‘fraud protection’ banner in the lower right of their front page…..
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Just thought I’d enlist your help in putting pressure on a vendor who seems to feel that it is okay to steal the property of others in order to promote his orchid sales. The owner of J & K orchids has incorporated one of Greg Allikas’ Phal photos into the logo on his home page http://www.jandkorchids.com/ Those lovely pink Phals belong to Greg. Greg has asked for payment for unauthorized use ($75 worth of plants) and considering that Greg makes his living selling orchid and other photos, this seems very reasonable to me. His requests have been totally ignored. As we saw before, public pressure from the orchid community seems to be an effective way of stopping this sort of abuse of copyright. The email address behaving in this manner as he/she seems to be on the right track by offering the AOS membership a 10% discount. Since this person is obviously an AOS supporter it is particularly unfortunate that they feel free to abuse an AOS photographer.
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Well, good luck getting them to respond. I purchased some plants from them last summer and had a couple "issues" – one plant was not labeled as the clone described and one plant was small for the price. They never responded to my repeated email. Also, it appears they haven’t updated their plant catalog since 2000. I won’t be ordering from them again. deg – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Just thought I’d enlist your help in putting pressure on a vendor who seems to feel that it is okay to steal the property of others in order to promote his orchid sales. The owner of J & K orchids has incorporated one of Greg Allikas’ Phal photos into the logo on his home page http://www.jandkorchids.com/ Those lovely pink Phals belong to Greg. Greg has asked for payment for unauthorized use ($75 worth of plants) and considering that Greg makes his living selling orchid and other photos, this seems very reasonable to me. His requests have been totally ignored. As we saw before, public pressure from the orchid community seems to be an effective way of stopping this sort of abuse of copyright. The email address behaving in this manner as he/she seems to be on the right track by offering the AOS membership a 10% discount. Since this person is obviously an AOS supporter it is particularly unfortunate that they feel free to abuse an AOS photographer.
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: I grow it bright, moist and feed it like crazy. Now this is what works : for me so you will need to find your own niche for your growing conditions. : I also have high humidity and constant air movement. I grow my plant similarly and it does very well.
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I grow it bright, moist and feed it like crazy. Now this is what works for me so you will need to find your own niche for your growing conditions. I also have high humidity and constant air movement.
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Does anyone have any information on the cultural needs for Bulb. rufinum
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Hi, Camranh, http://www.clanorchids.com (Camp Lot A Noise) has not only a picture of this one but also an intro. to bulbs. Happy Growing . . . . . . Pam Everything Orchid Management System http://www.pe.net/~profpam/page3.html Singapore Orchid Gardens http://www.pe.net/~profpam/singa.html The Scent of Orchids http://www.pe.net/~profpam/scent.html The New Otani Orchid Show http://www.pe.net/~profpam/rsbcos.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone have any information on the cultural needs for Bulb. rufinum
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Dear Ninny, I had been missing your posts! Serves me right that you jump back out of the woodwork right at me! <g My oncs are all straight. Well, actually if you call hermaphroditism straight. Gower Ramsey and such. Guess I’ll also have to try using my aerosol hair spray on them instead of aerosol insecticide… — Reka www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html "I hate flowers-I paint them because they’re cheaper than models and they don’t move." –Georgia O’Keeffe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Poor Reka, her Oncids always look like they jumped out of bed and never bothered to comb their hair! Have you tried a good hair conditioner on them?? Unruly little buggers aren’t they? Maybe you might want to consider growing some of the mule ear type, maybe also ampliatum. In fact, any with the stiffer type foliage. I have never, in my estimation, seen these get unruly. Which Oncids are you talking about anyway, Reka. Do any of them happen to be intergenerics are they straight Oncids?? Just curious, The Ninny Thank goodness! Are they all so teenager-like? Mine gangle all over the place! — Reka www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html "I hate flowers-I paint them because they’re cheaper than models and they don’t move." –Georgia O’Keeffe Newsbeitrag Reka, baby…It’s not your culture, it’s the nature of the beast. I’m a firm believer in "divide and conquer." — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info! I get so frustrated with my Oncidiums, since they get so unsightly looking after a while. They grow out of the pot, up and over the rim, no matter what I do. Am I doing something wrong, or do I need to repot more often? Or is division the answer? I am afraid of overpotting them, but it seems they need more leg room. — Reka www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html "I hate flowers-I paint them because they’re cheaper than models and they don’t move." –Georgia O’Keeffe
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Yes, that’s the general idea. I posted a photo of a Catt over on our photo forum.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This what you meant, Max? http://www.clanorchids.com/pages/bmaxim.htm — Reka www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html "I hate flowers-I paint them because they’re cheaper than models and they don’t move." –Georgia O’Keeffe Got one of your wonderful pics of that setup, Max? — Reka www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html "I hate flowers-I paint them because they’re cheaper than models and they don’t move." –Georgia O’Keeffe You might want to try my potted mount. I use it on gangly Catts too. Stick a mount in a pot, pot up the orchid placing it in a position to climb up the stick – looks nice and you don’t have to divide as often. I’ll leave it to you to figure out how to affix the stick to the pot but what I did was mix up a bit of quick set cement and pile up some around the part of the stick along the side of the pot. I use an inorganic mix so the stick adds a bit of moisture and the roots and plant climb up on it.
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This what you meant, Max? http://www.clanorchids.com/pages/bmaxim.htm — Reka www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html "I hate flowers-I paint them because they’re cheaper than models and they don’t move." –Georgia O’Keeffe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Got one of your wonderful pics of that setup, Max? — Reka www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html "I hate flowers-I paint them because they’re cheaper than models and they don’t move." –Georgia O’Keeffe You might want to try my potted mount. I use it on gangly Catts too. Stick a mount in a pot, pot up the orchid placing it in a position to climb up the stick – looks nice and you don’t have to divide as often. I’ll leave it to you to figure out how to affix the stick to the pot but what I did was mix up a bit of quick set cement and pile up some around the part of the stick along the side of the pot. I use an inorganic mix so the stick adds a bit of moisture and the roots and plant climb up on it.
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I promise to take one as soon as I am at home during daylight!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Got one of your wonderful pics of that setup, Max? — Reka www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html "I hate flowers-I paint them because they’re cheaper than models and they don’t move." –Georgia O’Keeffe You might want to try my potted mount. I use it on gangly Catts too. Stick a mount in a pot, pot up the orchid placing it in a position to climb up the stick – looks nice and you don’t have to divide as often. I’ll leave it to you to figure out how to affix the stick to the pot but what I did was mix up a bit of quick set cement and pile up some around the part of the stick along the side of the pot. I use an inorganic mix so the stick adds a bit of moisture and the roots and plant climb up on it.
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Got one of your wonderful pics of that setup, Max? — Reka www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html "I hate flowers-I paint them because they’re cheaper than models and they don’t move." –Georgia O’Keeffe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You might want to try my potted mount. I use it on gangly Catts too. Stick a mount in a pot, pot up the orchid placing it in a position to climb up the stick – looks nice and you don’t have to divide as often. I’ll leave it to you to figure out how to affix the stick to the pot but what I did was mix up a bit of quick set cement and pile up some around the part of the stick along the side of the pot. I use an inorganic mix so the stick adds a bit of moisture and the roots and plant climb up on it.
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I vote for ingenuous in a vain attempt to muddy the waters. Spartacus PS Don’t want to start an inflammable flame war or is that a flammable flame war. I think you are trying to flummox everyone Ray!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You gotta watch those prefixes! Ingenious…NOT genius? I recall that when I live in England, some thing that was inflammable was considered very flammable, while here in the States, it means not flammable. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info! Ingenius! — Matthew Swift Swift’s Orchids www.swiftsorchids.com You might want to try my potted mount. I use it on gangly Catts too. Stick a mount in a pot, pot up the orchid placing it in a position to climb up the stick – looks nice and you don’t have to divide as often. I’ll leave it to you to figure out how to affix the stick to the pot but what I did was mix up a bit of quick set cement and pile up some around the part of the stick along the side of the pot. I use an inorganic mix so the stick adds a bit of moisture and the roots and plant climb up on it.
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Hi Pam, Reread what I wrote. Ampliatum is not a mule ear as you correctly state. I said try some mule ears, maybe also ampliatum. If I had been including ampliatum in with the mule ears I would have said such as. Sorry if I confused you. The only person I am supposed to confuse is myself. That is why a certain someone called me a ninny. Nothing wrong with that, my dear mother used to call me a ninny all the time when I was growing up. Brings back memories of my true ninnyhood. Stephen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Such humor, Stephen. I thought the Oncidium ampliatum was a tortoise type of orchid. A mule ear . . . ha? . . . Pam P. S. Oncidium season is a glow at present. I would have to check my records, but I think my Oncidium ampliatums bloomed in the summer. Poor Reka, her Oncids always look like they jumped out of bed and never bothered to comb their hair! Have you tried a good hair conditioner on them?? Unruly little buggers aren’t they? Maybe you might want to consider growing some of the mule ear type, maybe also ampliatum. In fact, any with the stiffer type foliage. I have never, in my estimation, seen these get unruly. Which Oncids are you talking about anyway, Reka. Do any of them happen to be intergenerics are they straight Oncids?? Just curious, The Ninny Thank goodness! Are they all so teenager-like? Mine gangle all over the place! — Reka www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html "I hate flowers-I paint them because they’re cheaper than models and they don’t move." –Georgia O’Keeffe Newsbeitrag Reka, baby…It’s not your culture, it’s the nature of the beast. I’m a firm believer in "divide and conquer." — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info! I get so frustrated with my Oncidiums, since they get so unsightly looking after a while. They grow out of the pot, up and over the rim, no matter what I do. Am I doing something wrong, or do I need to repot more often? Or is division the answer? I am afraid of overpotting them, but it seems they need more leg room. — Reka www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html "I hate flowers-I paint them because they’re cheaper than models and they don’t move." –Georgia O’Keeffe
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I spelled it wrong in
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Now Kathy, I never left the rgo, I was just looking for an alternate place to get my "fix." Now that alternate is the forum at www.theorchidsource.com — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ray, that’s what you get for leaving rgo in the first place. As punishment I sentence you to watch ‘Apocalypse Now’, any version you want. Specifically the scenes on the river gunboat. Pay close attention to the lesson the Cook learns when he goes looking for something to add to that night’s meal. K Barrett ("Never get offa the boat") Wow! The gall of Spike Hernandez! I responded to a question about semi-hydro culture, and included a pointer to my website so the individual could read more about it, and "Spike" ends up accusing me of stealing advertising! He’s seen the last of my presence there. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!
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Show me where I mentioned one of your friends. It’s not possible since you don’t have any. And get this…lean CLOSE so you hear it well…I don’t need your permission to post here. And as usual you’re the only one acting the windbag. Go away, Mick. Come back when you’re through foaming at the mouth. -Rod- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Rot, You have to remember one very important thing you little nitwit. Your enemies on RGO are MY friends… and when you attack even one of my friends on RGO with your cheap-shot, back-stabbing snide remarks by calling any one of my friends a "miserable soul" you are going to face me full force. And I am going to dredge up all your past deeds on RGO for all the newbies to hear fresh… just like clockwork. I don’t care if you were talking to me or not… you took a shot at one of my friends and you are going to pay for it. And don’t you ever forget it you dirty snake in the grass. If you want to be accepted back into RGO then stick to orchids and drop your vindictive slams/insults against RGO members. Mick Who was talking to you? -Rod-
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Well the only reason to care is that the orchid online community seems to get around to the few forums that exist so we all seem to know what’s going on where except for the poor newbies who find their way to GW first and get stuck there because no one there is allowed to mention the existence of other forums. Some of them never seem to get that the (probable) reason they are getting email spam is because they registered on Spike’s site. Spike posts a long diatribe on how he has to keep spam out of the site "for their benefit" when he claims the right to sell their email addresses (he said he could do anything he wanted with the content of his site since it all belonged to him). Then you get some twit who posts about how he really is happy Spike is watching out for them and excluding spammer posts because he’s getting 100s of spam emails a day as it is! Does anyone think that simple banner adds really work? I don’t even see them anymore.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I had the gall to ask him on the forum why he claimed copywrite to the photos that contributors posted to GW. He pulled that post and when I asked again and also asked what his policy was on selling member’s email addresses to focused web advertising agencies he not only pulled the post and banned me but banned my whole server from posting to GW. He’s a control freak and he lies to the people who are still there about his motives. Well, that’s why unmoderated UseNet newsgroups exist — so you can say what you want, whether good bad wicked or boring — & control freaks & wussies can whine at you but they can’t censor you. An individual’s e-list, bulletin board, or moderated newsgroup cannot be regarded as free speech environments. So your choice is always to risk the occasional flamer or troll by respecting free speech, or go hang out with a bunch of retards & never say anything that makes the Master Of Ceremonies go all wussy & vengeful. Such anti-free-speech environments have their purpose — polite places for milquetoast braindead crashing bores, or safe havens for kids whose parents might not want them on no-holds-barred newsgroups, plus I suppose merely commercial lists that only pretend to care what your opinion is when they actually only want your money. If you don’t fit the apropos categories however, why even care about such outlets enough to get up in arms over some control freak who sits in a litter box pretending to be king of a mountain? -paghat the ratgirl — "Here dwell souls that did neither evil nor good." -Inferno
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Rot, Ooops… be careful there. Don’t rot all over yourself. Mick
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Mick, I just KNOW that you’ll be thrilled and overjoyed to hear that I’ve been cancer-free since my surgery. The chances are, I’ll outlive you by a long shot. *IF* I should ever decide to take up Orchids again, beyond my occasional posts here, there’s not a lot you’re going to be able to do about it if you’re gone. And with all of the hate you carry, which is a disease in itself, your body and mind are going to age quickly. BTW, were you ever in the military? -Rod- Rot, Ooops… be careful there. Don’t rot all over yourself. Mick
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Interestingly I know paghat the ratgirl from another newsgroup I read. She must be among the truly connected. I understand there are support groups for usenet junkies. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now Kathy, I never left the rgo, I was just looking for an alternate place to get my "fix." Now that alternate is the forum at www.theorchidsource.com — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info! Ray, that’s what you get for leaving rgo in the first place. As punishment I sentence you to watch ‘Apocalypse Now’, any version you want. Specifically the scenes on the river gunboat. Pay close attention to the lesson the Cook learns when he goes looking for something to add to that night’s meal. K Barrett ("Never get offa the boat") Wow! The gall of Spike Hernandez! I responded to a question about semi-hydro culture, and included a pointer to my website so the individual could read more about it, and "Spike" ends up accusing me of stealing advertising! He’s seen the last of my presence there. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!
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Ray, that’s what you get for leaving rgo in the first place. As punishment I sentence you to watch ‘Apocalypse Now’, any version you want. Specifically the scenes on the river gunboat. Pay close attention to the lesson the Cook learns when he goes looking for something to add to that night’s meal. K Barrett ("Never get offa the boat") – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wow! The gall of Spike Hernandez! I responded to a question about semi-hydro culture, and included a pointer to my website so the individual could read more about it, and "Spike" ends up accusing me of stealing advertising! He’s seen the last of my presence there. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!
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I had no idea that he was selling lists, now I know where the spam in my hotmail account comes from!! He’s the only place on-line that has my real address–b/c he says he wouldn’t sell it: from his privacy policy "Email lists are not sold or shared with any other companies or entities". But I can see where he thought that Ray’s site is a commercial one–there are things for sale there. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wow! The gall of Spike Hernandez! I responded to a question about semi-hydro culture, and included a pointer to my website so the individual could read more about it, and "Spike" ends up accusing me of stealing advertising! He’s seen the last of my presence there. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!
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For the record, I don’t KNOW that he sells email addresses but he claimed in a post in answer to my question that he had the right to do anything he wanted with what he collected on GW. Also, like you, the email address I used when registered there (not anymore) got more spam than others I used other places….
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I had no idea that he was selling lists, now I know where the spam in my hotmail account comes from!! He’s the only place on-line that has my real address–b/c he says he wouldn’t sell it: from his privacy policy "Email lists are not sold or shared with any other companies or entities". But I can see where he thought that Ray’s site is a commercial one–there are things for sale there. Wow! The gall of Spike Hernandez! I responded to a question about semi-hydro culture, and included a pointer to my website so the individual could read more about it, and "Spike" ends up accusing me of stealing advertising! He’s seen the last of my presence there. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!
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Oh I do. Most of the people who have any information to offer have left GW orchids forum. Its amazing how many questions go unanswered over there or are answered with more misinformation than with anything useful. Its just pretty short sited from a business point of view, his only draw is the content on his site (why else would anyone go there) and that’s what induces the advertisers to pay for adds there. Throw out the people who provide content and you don’t have a product anymore. I don’t see how he stays alive. Wonder if his advertisers know what a twit he is?
I had the gall to ask [Moderator Spike Hernandez] on the forum why he
claimed copywrite to the – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – photos that contributors posted to GW. He pulled that post and when I asked again and also asked what his policy was on selling member’s email addresses to focused web advertising agencies he not only pulled the post and banned me but banned my whole server from posting to GW. Spike is famous for this crap. His exploits on the rose forum are legendary. I was "disneyed" for sending him a private email in defense of a vendor who was himself disneyed. He has banned many internationally noted experts in all of the horticultural disciplines. Consider yourself to be in good company. :-) Dave
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I had the gall to ask [Moderator Spike Hernandez] on the forum why he claimed copywrite to the photos that contributors posted to GW. He pulled that post and when I asked again and also asked what his policy was on selling member’s email addresses to focused web advertising agencies he not only pulled the post and banned me but banned my whole server from posting to GW.
Spike is famous for this crap. His exploits on the rose forum are legendary. I was "disneyed" for sending him a private email in defense of a vendor who was himself disneyed. He has banned many internationally noted experts in all of the horticultural disciplines. Consider yourself to be in good company. :-) Dave
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Who was talking to you? -Rod- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Rot, You stupid loud mouth blowhard. You don’t have any teeth to kick out… you left them on the kindergarten playground after you opened that vile disgusting black hole-of-a-mouth of yours just one too many times to one too many 6-year old girls tougher than you. You’re lucky the guys in your kindergarten class didn’t stuff your head up your rectum then. Actually they should have… they would have being doing you a favor in teaching you a valuable lesson in humility and respect for other people and their own personal miseries instead of babbling on nonstop to everyone about YOUR ailments/miseries every waking day for the rest of sicko life seeking to prosper on outpourings of sympathy from the gullible. Like YOUR miseries are much more important than anyone else’s. Geesh! You didn’t give away thousands of hours of orchid advice… you jammed your "word" down everyone’s throat drowning out anyone else who would differ with you and your back-stabbing, ankle-biting cadre of cheapskates shamelessly looking for discounts on orchids from you. You are nothing more than an extension of your computer and you couldn’t stop giving your ego self-inflating brand of "advice" if you wanted to. You are the epitome of a computer geek hopelessly glued to his machine. But in your case your computer mouse is actually much smarter and more intelligent than you will ever be. We all see you trying to weasel your way back into RGO. And yes, of late everybody has indeed been ignoring you and your recent stupid OT posts because the only objective you have in this forum is to pump yourself up… AGAIN… but everyone is wise to you now you little pompous fake. You still want all of us on RGO to dedicate, finance and build a marble statue to you and your glory at AOS headquarters? That post you shot up a couple weeks ago about the computer laptop you scratched out of RGO a couple of years ago was a joke. And then to have your nephew in Florida (who originally started beating the drum of support to buy that laptop for you) to play the foil and fake some bleeding-heart interest in knowing what you are doing with that laptop now was so lame. We all know what you’re doing with that laptop…. your running your "I’m a victim shtick" on several other newsgroups not quite yet hip to your "I am a victim song and dance". And what valuable advice did you give to RGO in days past? I wish I had a dollar for every time you told some newbie to take the plant back to the original seller for follow-up. What the hell kind of advice is that? As if these people seeking help on RGO could remember where they even bought every plant they’ve acquired over the last several years. Your ulterior motive in that obvious "canned" response was just to shame newbies into buying plants from national selling retail vendors with a "presence" on the web who "might" someday just be able to offer follow-up growing culture suggestions… like your big kind-hearted "all-knowing" self. Your motto is/was to lay the seeds in newbie heads for boycotting discount and bulk orchid sellers who would be long gone and impossible to find for "follow-up" advice on a suffering/dying orchid a year later after they (ie wholesale vendors) sold it in a blow & go orchid show or flea market. I am glad most people won’t talk to you now. If I was one of the miserable souls who helped in creating that new reality for you then I am extremely pleased with myself. If I was not one of the miserable souls who made that happen, then I wish I would have been…. but I think you know my role in life well enough by now. Rot, why don’t you just crawl back in your hole in Colorado and leave RGO to prosper… things were going so well these last 8 months without you. Every time you show up on this news group you have to start firing off your hate-filled barbs and worn-out, boring "I-was-a-victim" whining crap. Wise up and try getting up off your belly like a real man. Mick That rant sounds familiar, Ray. Does it not? I gave away thousands of hours of free support and I didn’t care if the person on the receiving end was a customer or not. And got kicked in the teeth for my efforts by one or two miserable souls that just couldn’t stand my success. Sadly, most people won’t even talk to me now. You’re the big guy on the block now and it seems to be your turn. Give what you get 
-Rod-
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Rot, You stupid loud mouth blowhard. You don’t have any teeth to kick out… you left them on the kindergarten playground after you opened that vile disgusting black hole-of-a-mouth of yours just one too many times to one too many 6-year old girls tougher than you. You’re lucky the guys in your kindergarten class didn’t stuff your head up your rectum then. Actually they should have… they would have being doing you a favor in teaching you a valuable lesson in humility and respect for other people and their own personal miseries instead of babbling on nonstop to everyone about YOUR ailments/miseries every waking day for the rest of sicko life seeking to prosper on outpourings of sympathy from the gullible. Like YOUR miseries are much more important than anyone else’s. Geesh! You didn’t give away thousands of hours of orchid advice… you jammed your "word" down everyone’s throat drowning out anyone else who would differ with you and your back-stabbing, ankle-biting cadre of cheapskates shamelessly looking for discounts on orchids from you. You are nothing more than an extension of your computer and you couldn’t stop giving your ego self-inflating brand of "advice" if you wanted to. You are the epitome of a computer geek hopelessly glued to his machine. But in your case your computer mouse is actually much smarter and more intelligent than you will ever be. We all see you trying to weasel your way back into RGO. And yes, of late everybody has indeed been ignoring you and your recent stupid OT posts because the only objective you have in this forum is to pump yourself up… AGAIN… but everyone is wise to you now you little pompous fake. You still want all of us on RGO to dedicate, finance and build a marble statue to you and your glory at AOS headquarters? That post you shot up a couple weeks ago about the computer laptop you scratched out of RGO a couple of years ago was a joke. And then to have your nephew in Florida (who originally started beating the drum of support to buy that laptop for you) to play the foil and fake some bleeding-heart interest in knowing what you are doing with that laptop now was so lame. We all know what you’re doing with that laptop…. your running your "I’m a victim shtick" on several other newsgroups not quite yet hip to your "I am a victim song and dance". And what valuable advice did you give to RGO in days past? I wish I had a dollar for every time you told some newbie to take the plant back to the original seller for follow-up. What the hell kind of advice is that? As if these people seeking help on RGO could remember where they even bought every plant they’ve acquired over the last several years. Your ulterior motive in that obvious "canned" response was just to shame newbies into buying plants from national selling retail vendors with a "presence" on the web who "might" someday just be able to offer follow-up growing culture suggestions… like your big kind-hearted "all-knowing" self. Your motto is/was to lay the seeds in newbie heads for boycotting discount and bulk orchid sellers who would be long gone and impossible to find for "follow-up" advice on a suffering/dying orchid a year later after they (ie wholesale vendors) sold it in a blow & go orchid show or flea market. I am glad most people won’t talk to you now. If I was one of the miserable souls who helped in creating that new reality for you then I am extremely pleased with myself. If I was not one of the miserable souls who made that happen, then I wish I would have been…. but I think you know my role in life well enough by now. Rot, why don’t you just crawl back in your hole in Colorado and leave RGO to prosper… things were going so well these last 8 months without you. Every time you show up on this news group you have to start firing off your hate-filled barbs and worn-out, boring "I-was-a-victim" whining crap. Wise up and try getting up off your belly like a real man. Mick – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – That rant sounds familiar, Ray. Does it not? I gave away thousands of hours of free support and I didn’t care if the person on the receiving end was a customer or not. And got kicked in the teeth for my efforts by one or two miserable souls that just couldn’t stand my success. Sadly, most people won’t even talk to me now. You’re the big guy on the block now and it seems to be your turn. Give what you get -Rod-
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Rot, You have to remember one very important thing you little nitwit. Your enemies on RGO are MY friends… and when you attack even one of my friends on RGO with your cheap-shot, back-stabbing snide remarks by calling any one of my friends a "miserable soul" you are going to face me full force. And I am going to dredge up all your past deeds on RGO for all the newbies to hear fresh… just like clockwork. I don’t care if you were talking to me or not… you took a shot at one of my friends and you are going to pay for it. And don’t you ever forget it you dirty snake in the grass. If you want to be accepted back into RGO then stick to orchids and drop your vindictive slams/insults against RGO members. Mick – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Who was talking to you? -Rod-
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I had the gall to ask him on the forum why he claimed copywrite to the photos that contributors posted to GW. He pulled that post and when I asked again and also asked what his policy was on selling member’s email addresses to focused web advertising agencies he not only pulled the post and banned me but banned my whole server from posting to GW. He’s a control freak and he lies to the people who are still there about his motives.
Well, that’s why unmoderated UseNet newsgroups exist — so you can say what you want, whether good bad wicked or boring — & control freaks & wussies can whine at you but they can’t censor you. An individual’s e-list, bulletin board, or moderated newsgroup cannot be regarded as free speech environments. So your choice is always to risk the occasional flamer or troll by respecting free speech, or go hang out with a bunch of retards & never say anything that makes the Master Of Ceremonies go all wussy & vengeful. Such anti-free-speech environments have their purpose — polite places for milquetoast braindead crashing bores, or safe havens for kids whose parents might not want them on no-holds-barred newsgroups, plus I suppose merely commercial lists that only pretend to care what your opinion is when they actually only want your money. If you don’t fit the apropos categories however, why even care about such outlets enough to get up in arms over some control freak who sits in a litter box pretending to be king of a mountain? -paghat the ratgirl — "Here dwell souls that did neither evil nor good." -Inferno
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That rant sounds familiar, Ray. Does it not? I gave away thousands of hours of free support and I didn’t care if the person on the receiving end was a customer or not. And got kicked in the teeth for my efforts by one or two miserable souls that just couldn’t stand my success. Sadly, most people won’t even talk to me now. You’re the big guy on the block now and it seems to be your turn. Give what you get -Rod- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, ratgirl, As I normally don’t frequent rec.gardens, and you don’t frequent rec.gardens.orchids, it’s no wonder you don’t know me or my approach. Yes, I have a business on-line. It’s part time, and is pretty much intended to pay for my hobby. I have a real job that foots the real bills. I don’t advertise anywhere other than my sig, and offer all kinds of free stuff without twisting anyone’s arm to buy anything. I like to share what I’ve learned in order to help others get the enjoyment out of growing that I do. So I get called a thief for trying to share???? Go figure. I suspect that you might be right abut the failing business – especially considering the way the guy chases folks away. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info! Wow! The gall of Spike Hernandez! I responded to a question about semi-hydro culture, and included a pointer to my website so the individual could read more about it, and "Spike" ends up accusing me of stealing advertising! He’s seen the last of my presence there. Spam is such a problem on bulletin boards & e-lists, maybe he just over-reacted in aggressivingly netcopping spam & failed momentarily to consider the community aspect of shared hobby & business interests. But whenever someone’s really frightened of competition, that often means his own business is failing & he needs to cast blame for his incapacity in directions other than at his personal incompetence. Successful small business enterprises interact & support one another in myriads of ways; unsuccessful ones are convinced they could’ve made it if only they could’ve deepened the isolation which in reality caused their failure. On the other hand IF you’re indeed the sort of commentator who always has the answer to things but only if people visit your website, you could well be the stealth spammer you’ve been charged with being, even if you’ve internalized a belief that that’s not what you’re up to. I have quite an elaborate website myself & feel no pressing need to promote it on UseNet, e-lists, or bulletin boards — only doomed buttmunchkins desparate for the business & suffering from a lack of hits do that It’s just like how the worst amateur pigshit writers ever post "Please read my novel posted at www.amateur-pigshit-writers.com"; just never catch anyone talented doing that. When I see people who always seem to be saying, "You might be helped if you go to www.MyMoronicHomepage.com," said site’s invariably NOT bookmark-worthy & if it’s a business, not projecting any image of trustworthiness. So three possibilities: Spike over-reacted to no big deal inducing you to overreact to him; gardenweb is in deep trouble & taking it out on you; or you’re the skank you’ve been accused of being. Taking your anger to UseNet in an apparent attempt to harm Gardenweb does suggest the possibility that this is ultimately Skank vs Skank rather than good guy Ray vs monstrous shithead Spike, but who knows. -paghat the ratgirl — "Here dwell souls that did neither evil nor good." -Inferno
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"Cereoid*" says… You mean he hasn’t outright banned you yet? If he hasn’t, he soon will!! How dare you know more about a subject that the typical naive neophyte there. You must be really daring to actually try to help someone in HIS little enchanted kingdom. Try to post a reply and see if YOU get diverted to Disneyland. BTW, Spike Hernandez is an alias of the Gardenweb owner Robert Stewart.
**** Interesting. How do you know this? I always thought this might be a one man show. It really doesn’t look there would be enough things to do to support more than one worker. dee – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wow! The gall of Spike Hernandez! I responded to a question about semi-hydro culture, and included a pointer to my website so the individual could read more about it, and "Spike" ends up accusing me of stealing advertising! He’s seen the last of my presence there. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!
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I had the gall to ask him on the forum why he claimed copywrite to the photos that contributors posted to GW. He pulled that post and when I asked again and also asked what his policy was on selling member’s email addresses to focused web advertising agencies he not only pulled the post and banned me but banned my whole server from posting to GW. He’s a control freak and he lies to the people who are still there about his motives. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Join the Disney Club, Ray. Spike’s a narrow-minded fascist, IMHO. — David J. Bockman, Fairfax, VA (USDA Hardiness Zone 7) Bunabayashi Bonsai On The World Wide Web: http://www.bunabayashi.com Wow! The gall of Spike Hernandez! I responded to a question about semi-hydro culture, and included a pointer to my website so the individual could read more about it, and "Spike" ends up accusing me of stealing advertising! He’s seen the last of my presence there. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!
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On the other hand IF you’re indeed the sort of commentator who always has the answer to things but only if people visit your website, you could well be the stealth spammer you’ve been charged with being,
Sorry paghat, but no one charged Ray with being a spammer. It was only a conclusion based on past behavior of Spike. GW is run as a personal domain by a single person, and he won’t tolerate any reference to another site. If you have a link to RGO, AOS, Orchid Source Forum, or elsewhere in your post, he will delete the post. If you try again, he will ban you. Spike is also well known for banning people he personally doesn’t like, it’s a standard joke that you’ve been "Disney’d". Almost a mark of honor among the irreverent. If you knew ray’s posts, you would know that he doesn’t advertise in the comment. It’s not one of those "I know the answer, go to my website" type things, but instead he answers the questions in the reply. The only reference to the website is in the sig. No spam, no muss, no fuss. Read the other posts by people who have been banned, and you will see why he is losing readers. I used to read and occasionally post, but many friends were banned, and I no longer go there. jimwatts
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Well, ratgirl, As I normally don’t frequent rec.gardens, and you don’t frequent rec.gardens.orchids, it’s no wonder you don’t know me or my approach. Yes, I have a business on-line. It’s part time, and is pretty much intended to pay for my hobby. I have a real job that foots the real bills. I don’t advertise anywhere other than my sig, and offer all kinds of free stuff without twisting anyone’s arm to buy anything. I like to share what I’ve learned in order to help others get the enjoyment out of growing that I do. So I get called a thief for trying to share???? Go figure. I suspect that you might be right abut the failing business – especially considering the way the guy chases folks away. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wow! The gall of Spike Hernandez! I responded to a question about semi-hydro culture, and included a pointer to my website so the individual could read more about it, and "Spike" ends up accusing me of stealing advertising! He’s seen the last of my presence there. Spam is such a problem on bulletin boards & e-lists, maybe he just over-reacted in aggressivingly netcopping spam & failed momentarily to consider the community aspect of shared hobby & business interests. But whenever someone’s really frightened of competition, that often means his own business is failing & he needs to cast blame for his incapacity in directions other than at his personal incompetence. Successful small business enterprises interact & support one another in myriads of ways; unsuccessful ones are convinced they could’ve made it if only they could’ve deepened the isolation which in reality caused their failure. On the other hand IF you’re indeed the sort of commentator who always has the answer to things but only if people visit your website, you could well be the stealth spammer you’ve been charged with being, even if you’ve internalized a belief that that’s not what you’re up to. I have quite an elaborate website myself & feel no pressing need to promote it on UseNet, e-lists, or bulletin boards — only doomed buttmunchkins desparate for the business & suffering from a lack of hits do that It’s just like how the worst amateur pigshit writers ever post "Please read my novel posted at www.amateur-pigshit-writers.com"; just never catch anyone talented doing that. When I see people who always seem to be saying, "You might be helped if you go to www.MyMoronicHomepage.com," said site’s invariably NOT bookmark-worthy & if it’s a business, not projecting any image of trustworthiness. So three possibilities: Spike over-reacted to no big deal inducing you to overreact to him; gardenweb is in deep trouble & taking it out on you; or you’re the skank you’ve been accused of being. Taking your anger to UseNet in an apparent attempt to harm Gardenweb does suggest the possibility that this is ultimately Skank vs Skank rather than good guy Ray vs monstrous shithead Spike, but who knows. -paghat the ratgirl — "Here dwell souls that did neither evil nor good." -Inferno
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Wow! The gall of Spike Hernandez! I responded to a question about semi-hydro culture, and included a pointer to my website so the individual could read more about it, and "Spike" ends up accusing me of stealing advertising! He’s seen the last of my presence there.
Spam is such a problem on bulletin boards & e-lists, maybe he just over-reacted in aggressivingly netcopping spam & failed momentarily to consider the community aspect of shared hobby & business interests. But whenever someone’s really frightened of competition, that often means his own business is failing & he needs to cast blame for his incapacity in directions other than at his personal incompetence. Successful small business enterprises interact & support one another in myriads of ways; unsuccessful ones are convinced they could’ve made it if only they could’ve deepened the isolation which in reality caused their failure. On the other hand IF you’re indeed the sort of commentator who always has the answer to things but only if people visit your website, you could well be the stealth spammer you’ve been charged with being, even if you’ve internalized a belief that that’s not what you’re up to. I have quite an elaborate website myself & feel no pressing need to promote it on UseNet, e-lists, or bulletin boards — only doomed buttmunchkins desparate for the business & suffering from a lack of hits do that It’s just like how the worst amateur pigshit writers ever post "Please read my novel posted at www.amateur-pigshit-writers.com"; just never catch anyone talented doing that. When I see people who always seem to be saying, "You might be helped if you go to www.MyMoronicHomepage.com," said site’s invariably NOT bookmark-worthy & if it’s a business, not projecting any image of trustworthiness. So three possibilities: Spike over-reacted to no big deal inducing you to overreact to him; gardenweb is in deep trouble & taking it out on you; or you’re the skank you’ve been accused of being. Taking your anger to UseNet in an apparent attempt to harm Gardenweb does suggest the possibility that this is ultimately Skank vs Skank rather than good guy Ray vs monstrous shithead Spike, but who knows. -paghat the ratgirl — "Here dwell souls that did neither evil nor good." -Inferno
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Join the Disney Club, Ray. Spike’s a narrow-minded fascist, IMHO. — David J. Bockman, Fairfax, VA (USDA Hardiness Zone 7) Bunabayashi Bonsai On The World Wide Web: http://www.bunabayashi.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wow! The gall of Spike Hernandez! I responded to a question about semi-hydro culture, and included a pointer to my website so the individual could read more about it, and "Spike" ends up accusing me of stealing advertising! He’s seen the last of my presence there. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!
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It did the same to me… because instead of giving my picture to gardenweb I was pointing on my site… I was told I was stealing ad etc… Reading the aim of the site it makes me laught… Jocelen www.rosarosam.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wow! The gall of Spike Hernandez! I responded to a question about semi-hydro culture, and included a pointer to my website so the individual could read more about it, and "Spike" ends up accusing me of stealing advertising! He’s seen the last of my presence there. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!
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You mean he hasn’t outright banned you yet? If he hasn’t, he soon will!! How dare you know more about a subject that the typical naive neophyte there. You must be really daring to actually try to help someone in HIS little enchanted kingdom. Try to post a reply and see if YOU get diverted to Disneyland. BTW, Spike Hernandez is an alias of the Gardenweb owner Robert Stewart. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wow! The gall of Spike Hernandez! I responded to a question about semi-hydro culture, and included a pointer to my website so the individual could read more about it, and "Spike" ends up accusing me of stealing advertising! He’s seen the last of my presence there. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!
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Wow! The gall of Spike Hernandez! I responded to a question about semi-hydro culture, and included a pointer to my website so the individual could read more about it, and "Spike" ends up accusing me of stealing advertising! He’s seen the last of my presence there. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!
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We have the 2-3′ root length. We fertilize everything with Dyna-Gro once a week. The ascdas are all in spike now except the seedling. I was hoping this was its year, but not so far. Good luck with yours. SuE – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Stephen, My asco’s get the same 1/4-1/2 tsp/gallon Dyna-Gro fertilizer that the rest of my collection gets and they do great, blooming at least a couple of times a year. Yes, they are supposed to be "heavy feeders," but as I feed at every watering, I guess that’s heavy enough. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info! Well, I share the space, that is until my orchids kick me out into the cold. My Ascocendas, all 6 of them, don’t have long dangling roots(yet). Most roots run all over the slat baskets they are in. I do feel Ray’s answer of too much fert may be correct. I have been feeding them very heavily and probably too frequently. I have cut back but maybe not soon enough. Something must be right, 3 are either blooming or getting close to it. Thanks for the advice. Stephen What is sharing the space. Sounds like the tips reach down to touch something or down to where you might have snails. SuE I have a couple of Ascocendas where a few of the root tips have turned blackish and it looks like it part of the tip has corroded. Most roots are fine. Any thoughts? Stephen
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I have a couple of Ascocendas where a few of the root tips have turned blackish and it looks like it part of the tip has corroded. Most roots are fine. Any thoughts? Stephen
I would agree with Ray, Sounds like they may have gotten too dry or salt build up. I have also seen this on occasion and attributed in my case to over fertilizing. Joe
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Just found a large grasshopper on one of mine. Could also be thrips May be other critter like these that are able to come and go – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a couple of Ascocendas where a few of the root tips have turned blackish and it looks like it part of the tip has corroded. Most roots are fine. Any thoughts? Stephen I would agree with Ray, Sounds like they may have gotten too dry or salt build up. I have also seen this on occasion and attributed in my case to over fertilizing. Joe Path: lobby!ngtf-m01.news.aol.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!skynet.be!skynet.be!news
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Grasshoppers are the PITS. I am finding all kinds of damage. I saw one small one in June. He got away and I never did see him again. BUT BOY! I know he had a good summer. SuE – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just found a large grasshopper on one of mine. Could also be thrips May be other critter like these that are able to come and go I have a couple of Ascocendas where a few of the root tips have turned blackish and it looks like it part of the tip has corroded. Most roots are fine. Any thoughts? Stephen I would agree with Ray, Sounds like they may have gotten too dry or salt build up. I have also seen this on occasion and attributed in my case to over fertilizing. Joe Path: lobby!ngtf-m01.news.aol.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!skynet.be!skynet.be!news .tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!64.152.100.70!sjcppf01.usenetserver.com!e420r- sjo4.usenetserver.com!usenetserver.com!sjcpnn01.usenetserver.com.POSTED!no t-for-mail Newsgroups: rec.gardens.orchids X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 15 X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. Organization: WebUseNet Corp. http://corp.webusenet.com – ReInventing the UseNet
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What is sharing the space. Sounds like the tips reach down to touch something or down to where you might have snails. SuE – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a couple of Ascocendas where a few of the root tips have turned blackish and it looks like it part of the tip has corroded. Most roots are fine. Any thoughts? Stephen
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Well, I share the space, that is until my orchids kick me out into the cold. My Ascocendas, all 6 of them, don’t have long dangling roots(yet). Most roots run all over the slat baskets they are in. I do feel Ray’s answer of too much fert may be correct. I have been feeding them very heavily and probably too frequently. I have cut back but maybe not soon enough. Something must be right, 3 are either blooming or getting close to it. Thanks for the advice. Stephen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What is sharing the space. Sounds like the tips reach down to touch something or down to where you might have snails. SuE I have a couple of Ascocendas where a few of the root tips have turned blackish and it looks like it part of the tip has corroded. Most roots are fine. Any thoughts? Stephen
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Stephen, My asco’s get the same 1/4-1/2 tsp/gallon Dyna-Gro fertilizer that the rest of my collection gets and they do great, blooming at least a couple of times a year. Yes, they are supposed to be "heavy feeders," but as I feed at every watering, I guess that’s heavy enough. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, I share the space, that is until my orchids kick me out into the cold. My Ascocendas, all 6 of them, don’t have long dangling roots(yet). Most roots run all over the slat baskets they are in. I do feel Ray’s answer of too much fert may be correct. I have been feeding them very heavily and probably too frequently. I have cut back but maybe not soon enough. Something must be right, 3 are either blooming or getting close to it. Thanks for the advice. Stephen What is sharing the space. Sounds like the tips reach down to touch something or down to where you might have snails. SuE I have a couple of Ascocendas where a few of the root tips have turned blackish and it looks like it part of the tip has corroded. Most roots are fine. Any thoughts? Stephen
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I have a couple of Ascocendas where a few of the root tips have turned blackish and it looks like it part of the tip has corroded. Most roots are fine. Any thoughts? Stephen
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Sounds like too dry or salt buildup. — Ray Barkalow < First Rays Orchids http://www.firstrays.com Secure Online Ordering & Lots of Free Info!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a couple of Ascocendas where a few of the root tips have turned blackish and it looks like it part of the tip has corroded. Most roots are fine. Any thoughts? Stephen
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Get a garden fork if you can’t afford a rototiller. Start walking around the homestead and when the vibes feel right, start digging. A fork would be best because if you’re not familiar with rototillers, you might end up in the next door neighbor’s yard before you’re finished. Actually this a discussion group on orchids which is indoor or greenhouse gardening for most of us. Starting a garden is a broad subject. What do you want to grow? Where do you live? What kind of soil? on and on and on. Go to your local library and check out a good book. Ask your local garden center. Do a search on a good search engine, try Google. Try the News Group Rec.gardens or Rec.Gardens.edible. Good luck Stephen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello everyone I want to start a garden but don’t have a clue how to get it started. Any ideas you may want to share would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Hello everyone I want to start a garden but don’t have a clue how to get it started. Any ideas you may want to share would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Thanks. I promise to bookmark it this time <G. — Kenni Judd Juno Beach Orchids http://www.jborchids.com
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – thusly: Could someone please remind me how to access the archives for this group? Thanks, Kenni Judd Try: www.deja.com Click on "Advanced Groups Search." In the "Newsgroups" blank, put "rec.gardens.orchids" and then find whatever keywords, subjects, authors, or other information you want. Woo hoo! Free info! -AJHicks The Orchid Seedbank http://members.home.com/ahicks51/osp Chandler, AZ
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Could someone please remind me how to access the archives for this group? Thanks, — Kenni Judd Juno Beach Orchids http://www.jborchids.com
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thusly: Could someone please remind me how to access the archives for this group? Thanks, Kenni Judd
Try: www.deja.com Click on "Advanced Groups Search." In the "Newsgroups" blank, put "rec.gardens.orchids" and then find whatever keywords, subjects, authors, or other information you want. Woo hoo! Free info! -AJHicks The Orchid Seedbank http://members.home.com/ahicks51/osp Chandler, AZ
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Susan Erickson added this hint too. A quick way to add search functions to your toolbar. http://www.google.com/options/buttons.html I liked it so much I put it in a recent OrchidSafari newsletter. K Barrett – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – thusly: Could someone please remind me how to access the archives for this group? Thanks, Kenni Judd Try: www.deja.com Click on "Advanced Groups Search." In the "Newsgroups" blank, put "rec.gardens.orchids" and then find whatever keywords, subjects, authors, or other information you want. Woo hoo! Free info! -AJHicks The Orchid Seedbank http://members.home.com/ahicks51/osp Chandler, AZ
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